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Kuffarphobia in China


Kuffarphobia in China

To deal with attacks on the 4 Freedoms by non-state movements in China

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Comment by Alan Lake on February 9, 2019 at 14:29

Mosques in China must raise the national flag to 'promote a spirit of patriotism' after claims Muslims are forced to eat pork at a 'brainwashing' camp emerged

  • Flags should be hung in a 'prominent position' in all mosque courtyards
  • New rule was published by the China Islamic Association on Saturday
  • It's set to further strengthen the understanding of national and civic ideals 
  • Came after former detainees of China's Muslim 're-education' camps spoke up

PUBLISHED: 12:26, 21 May 2018 | UPDATED: 00:46, 22 May 2018

All Chinese mosques should raise the national flag to 'promote a spirit of patriotism' among Muslims, the country's top Islamic regulatory body has declared.

Flags should be hung in a 'prominent position' in all mosque courtyards, the China Islamic Association said in a letter published Saturday on its website. 

This would 'further strengthen the understanding of national and civic ideals, and promote a spirit of patriotism among Muslims of all ethnic groups', it read.

Mosques in China are now being urged to fly the national flag as a way to promote patriotism. Pictured, Muslims gather for Friday prayers inside a mosque in Shanghai, China

The China Islamic Association, a government-affiliated body, said the national flag of China (pictured at Tian'anmen Square in Beijing) should be hung in a 'prominent position' in mosques 

This news comes as China's Communist Party seeks to tighten its grip on religion. 

Last week, former detainees of China's Muslim 're-education' camps claimed they had been forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, forbidden in Islam, as punishment.

According to the statement on Saturday, mosques in China should also publicly display information on the party's 'core socialist values', and explain them to devotees via Islamic scripture so that they will be 'deeply rooted in people's hearts'.

The China Islamic Association is a government-affiliated body and has the sole power to accredit imams.

The letter comes on the heels of China's newly revised Regulations on Religious Affairs, which came into effect in February and prompted rights groups to voice concern for religious freedoms.


Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 5, 2019 at 11:56

Europe should be following China's example in Africa and exploiting the blacks there and making money out of them, instead of importing them here as a burden to our economy.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 5, 2019 at 5:50
Comment by Alan Lake on July 12, 2018 at 11:59
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 14, 2018 at 15:44

Surveillance is a dilemma. Normally I am all for it because it helps prevent crime and helps to identify criminals like rapists and muggers. It is very frustrating to see fuzzy images from street cameras when the police ask for help in identifying a thug.

I think there should be more CCTV with HD cameras on our streets. Of course I am talking about a democracy where the police and security services have the best interests of ordinary law-abiding citizens in mind. Not places like the UK where the law is abused for political ends or a totalitarian regime. Had I had the means, I would have had top notch cameras around and inside my home. (and a handgun).

Of course this facial recognition technology is here to stay and will be improved technically. We could do with such technology on armed drones flying over the Muslim areas of British cities picking off the paedophiles.(and antifa).

Comment by Alan Lake on March 14, 2018 at 12:39

God help us when our Islamopilic leaders implement this technology to watch over us:

China looks to smart glasses as new tools of control

Comment by Alan Lake on February 23, 2018 at 3:59

This talk of the crackdown on Chinese Muslims, also sending them to 'reeducation camps' may make everyone a bit jealous...

  • In Xinjiang, there are no signs that the massive buildup in both police presence and surveillance technology will recede anytime soon, despite the perceived success in limiting violence and protests thus far. If anything, it looks like things will get a lot worse. More and more Uyghurs, perhaps as many as 120,000, are being rounded up and sent to reeducation camps for minor offenses. Increasingly, any outward expression of religion or cultural expression is being seen as subversive, with even elderly intellectuals facing arrests, like the 82-year-old Islamic scholar Muhammad Salih Hajim, who died earlier this year in a reeducation camp. Now Uyghurs are also being forced to hand over DNA samples and put spyware on their phones. Meanwhile, spending on both technology and human-security presence is expected to rise even further.
Comment by Antony on January 14, 2018 at 17:40

China's attack on the Dollar - what does it mean ? ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 12, 2018 at 15:35

You are right Antony, the Chinese don't mess about, they just kill people. Actually buying into Pakistan and Afghanistan is better than sending in troops. the Chinese will control these economies and do not care if they become dictatorships.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 11, 2018 at 12:42

Good point about the Chinese built Spratly island being unsinkable.  It also probably costs a fraction of that of a US Aircraft carrier to build and operate.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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