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The Mass Exodus of Christians from the Muslim World

The Mass Exodus of Christians from the Muslim World by Raymond IbrahimMay 7, 2013 http://www.meforum.org/3504/christians-exodus-muslim-worl

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INSULT AFTER INJURY: EGYPT’S MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN ‘RECONCILIATION MEETINGS’

INSULT AFTER INJURY: EGYPT’S MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN ‘RECONCILIATION MEETINGS’ After Muslim mobs injure Christians, the authorities insult them. …

Started by Alan Lake

1 Aug 19, 2016
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McHugh: Catholic Church ‘Prostrating Themselves Before a Religion That’s Been At War With Them for 1400 Years’

McHugh: Catholic Church ‘Prostrating Themselves Before a Religion That’s Been At War With Them for 1400 Years’ The Associated Press by BR…

Started by Alan Lake

0 Jul 13, 2016

Pope Francis - archive articles

This forum is now closed, so please add new comments on Pope Francis to the new forum:http://4freedoms.com/group/theology/forum/topics/pope

Started by Alan Lake

13 May 24, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

“Christian girls are only meant for one thing: the pleasure of Muslim men”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/muslims-kill-christian-girl-christian-girls-are-only-meant-for-one-thing-the-pleasure-of-muslim-men It j…

Started by Herman Van Keer

1 Jan 23, 2016
Reply by Herman Van Keer

Gruesome Christmas under islam

http://unitedwithisrael.org/a-gruesome-christmas-under-islam/ And I accuse the pope and other religious 'leaders' to be accomplices, becau…

Started by Herman Van Keer

2 Jan 20, 2016
Reply by Herman Van Keer

The Mass Exodus of Christians from the Muslim World

The Mass Exodus of Christians from the Muslim World by Raymond IbrahimMay 7, 2013 http://www.meforum.org/3504/christians-exodus-muslim-worl

Started by Kinana

3 Oct 18, 2014
Reply by Joe

An Interview with Sister Hatune Dogan

An Interview with Sister Hatune Dogan Posted on June 4, 2014 by Baron Bodissey Sister Hatune Dogan is a Syrian Orthodox nun. She was born i…

Started by Kinana

0 Jun 4, 2014

British Leftists delighted at terrorising of Kaffir Syrian children

‘Our Youngest Hostage’ by Raymond Ibrahim on April 18, 2014 in From The Arab World   According to Sham Times and other Arabic webs…

Started by Alan Lake

1 May 1, 2014
Reply by Philip Smeeton

The Last Christian in the Middle East? - Gatestone Institute

The Last Christian in the Middle East? by Ali Salim  January 20, 2014 at 5:00 am The increasing speed with which the Christians of the Mi…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Jan 22, 2014
Reply by Philip Smeeton

Interfaith in the Muslim World!

In the UK, non-Muslims have created a massive 'interfaith movement' which a small number of media-savvy Muslims have taken full advantage…

Started by Paul Austin Murphy

6 Jan 9, 2014
Reply by Philip Smeeton

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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