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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Muslims in Spain can re-claim a cathetra; that was originally built as a mosque by the genocidal armies of islam.  They can attack security guards in the building.  They get off.

Meanwhile, we see in the islamic world a completely different standard (sharia) is applied...

The Iranian and Saudi authorities proudly boast of the large numbers of Bibles they impound from visitors and destroy.  Pakistan seeks to execute christians who "blaspheme" against islam.  Iran imprisons and executes those who convert from islam.


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The Fifth Criminal Court of Córdoba has acquitted the eight Austrian Muslim tourists who created an altercation inside the Mezquita-Catedral on Holy Wednesday in 2010 for praying inside the place of worship according to the Muslim rite.

The judgement considered it proved that the eight tourists visited various Spanish cities in March 2010 on a cultural trip organised by the Association of Young Muslims of Austria. Specifically, they arrived in Córdoba on 31 March, coinciding with Holy Wednesday. In the afternoon the eight accused as well as the rest of the group visited the Mezquita-Catedral and once inside, in an area not expressly dedicated to the Catholic religion, one of them -Z. E. A., started praying according to the Muslim rite, some of his colleagues following him spontaneously. On noticing them, an assistant with the building’s security service approached the group and asked them to stop praying. After a negative response, another security guard appeared who “angrily” made the same request to the leader of the group, at which moment a struggle began between him and various members of the group who wanted Z.E.A. to stop praying.

The judge concludes that once the leader finished praying he ran out towards the entrance gate. But when he reached it he was detained by the gatekeeper until the security guard appeared again, who grabbed him by the neck and took him to a nearby corner. “Many of the members … swirled around them”, adds the judgement.

His colleagues started to ask the security guard to let Z.E.A. go, some of them even trying to free him by force, an extremity that the security guard prevented.

After the National Police appeared in the Mezquita-Catedral the members of the security service explained to the agents what had occurred “all in a climate in which spirits were very heated”. One of the Austrian tourists, E.G., with one leg in plaster and crutches, started to shout, for which reason the officers subdued him and pulled him to the ground, arresting him.

Regarding this episode, the judge indicates that it had not been proved that the eight accused had previously formed an agreement for criminal purpose or that they had disturbed public order. The recordings, according to the judge, prove that the tourists had not formed a protective cordon around the prayer, as the security guards in the place of worship maintain.

The prosecutor declared that when the security guard grabbed the Muslim leader by the neck there was a moment in which one of the other accused rushed on him and stabbed at him with a pen-knife, an action he was able to avoid, although it resulted in a cut on his left hand.

The judge, however, says that “there is no proof of a knife attack”, based on the declarations of the people involves and a video recording made available to the judge. Besides, he sees it as “implausible” that there was a “forceful struggle” in which the pen-knife of ten centimetres “provoked a slight scratch on the hand of one of those involved”.

The third and last issue examined involved one of the acquitted Muslims raising a crutch to one of the police officers who arrived at the Mezquita. The judge did not substantiate this version based on the “irresolvable contradictions in the testimony” and the “lack of proof” of this action.

In his judgement, the judge declares that it is not his job to assess for punishment “socially reproachable behaviour”, which tarnishes “with intransigent narrow-mindedness, the natural and peaceful convivencia between religions”.

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I note that one of the muslims was carrieng a knife, which he used, I doubt if an EDL member who was caught even just carrieng a knife in his pocket would get off.

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

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Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
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3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
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An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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