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Christian Victims of Kuffarphobia

Christians are under worldwide persecution, mostly from Islam, ranging from forced FGM in Philippines, to beheading in Indonesia, to burning alive in Sudan - all ignored by the MSM and the Left.

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Comment by Alan Lake on January 22, 2017 at 18:08

Islamic call to prayer made in Gloucester Cathedral

Published: January 20th, 2017 

The Islamic call to prayer was made in Gloucester Cathedral last week during a multi-cultural exhibition, which also included Buddhist chanting, Rasta drumming and a pagan rock band. Tim Dieppe explains that the Islamic call to prayer is an explicit denial of Christianity, and an invitation to worship a different god.

A multi-cultural exhibition was launched in Gloucester Cathedral last week with the Islamic call to prayer. This prompted some criticism, and the Cathedral subsequently deleted their Facebook post on the call to prayer.

The Islamic call to prayer clearly states that "there is no god but Allah" and that "Muhammad is Allah's prophet", thus explicitly contradicting Christianity. The event also included Buddhist chanting, Rasta drumming, and a Pagan rock band.

Don't claim to have the truth?

Rev. Ruth Fitter, who helped arrange the exhibition told Gloucestershire Live:

"We live in a world that is becoming more and more polarised by people who claim to have the truth. No one has any proof of God - that's what faith is about.

"I happen to believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God who came to dwell with me and save me from my sins. That doesn't mean I expect others to change their faith or believe wholeheartedly."

It seems that Rev. Fitter believes that there is no objective truth. She appears to think that 'claiming to have the truth' is wrong. Perhaps she doesn't realise that she is making a truth claim in that very statement. Either it is true that 'claiming to have the truth' is wrong, or it is false. She claims it is true, and so breaks her own absurd attempt at moral reasoning.

Inviting an Imam to chant the Islamic call to prayer is inviting someone to make truth claims about Allah and Muhammad. Here again she has broken her own morality.

Follows Qur'an recited in Glasgow Cathedral

This follows Glasgow Cathedral being criticised for allowing the Qur'an to be recited during an Epiphany service. The passage read, insists that "It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son." This was strongly criticised by Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali, and also by the Rev. Gavin Ashdenden, Chaplain to the Queen who suggested that the Provost should apologise to Christians being persecuted by Muslims. The reading prompted a rebuke from the Primus of the Scottish Episcopal Church.

Not the Same God

Hosting an Islamic call to prayer is inviting people to worship a different god. Last year we published "Not the Same God" by Sam Solomon and Atif Debs, which explains how Allah is not the same as the Lord God of the Bible. Allah’s nature is very different to the God of Christianity. The truth claims of Islam and Christianity about God cannot be reconciled.

It is time for the Church to stand up for the truth of Christianity. The true God is a God of sacrificial love, who gave his son to die on a cross. This is not the Allah of Islam. There is no place for hosting an Islamic call to prayer in any place of Christian worship.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 18, 2017 at 14:25

One million Christians murdered in last ten years!!!

Comment by Antony on January 5, 2017 at 10:02
Comment by Antony on October 20, 2016 at 9:19
Comment by Kinana on September 21, 2016 at 14:19

Muslim migrant boat captain who 'threw six Christians to their deaths from his vessel because of their religion' goes on trial for murder

Comment by Alan Lake on August 28, 2016 at 15:39
The NY Times and the Washington Post operate as the Left's propaganda partners in crime.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 28, 2016 at 10:56

"The motive for the attack at the Roman Catholic St. Yoseph Church in Medan, the capital of North Sumatra province, was not clear, but the perpetrator carried a symbol indicating support for the Islamic State group."

The motive was not clear!???

Sorry, I thought I had a good understanding of the English language and a reasonable understanding of cause and effect, logical thinking, and the coherent use of the written and spoken word.

I was wrong, I am stupid, and I have misunderstood everything. I am grateful to the NY Times for putting me right- Nobody knows why ISIS and it's supporters are killing people. I think I understand now, The islamists are the innocent victims of Western Christian aggression intent on exterminating Muslims and erradicating Islam. They are really freedom fighters just defending themselves, western propaganda is lying about them. The attackers in Paris, New York and elsewhere were FBI and Mossad agents. (Probably manchurian candidates).

My bad-speaking towards Islam was responsible for this cofused young man, not knowing why he was doing what he did, walking into a church with an axe in his hands and a bomb strapped to his back. May Allah forgive me.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 6, 2016 at 15:05

Boko Haram is going to target churches and murder Christians, and they are going to succeed in the islamist ambition of spreading Islam across the entire continent of Africa.

Comment by Antony on August 6, 2016 at 12:55

Nigerian muslim govts targeting christians  ;

Comment by Alan Lake on October 11, 2015 at 22:42

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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