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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"This story is now being removed from websites which posted it when, in their KuffarP…"

Joe replied Jan 1, 2016 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"Bearded fundamentalist muslim, being charged with arson on his own mosque in Houston…"

Joe replied Dec 31, 2015 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"Let me guess: the idea is, discourage the police/public from questioning any muslim,…"

Joe replied Dec 11, 2015 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"The WSJ muslim Ahmed Al Omran has somehow managed to get this twitter name: https://…"

Joe replied Nov 19, 2015 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"I have another type of false flag operation: when muslims go on a killing spree and…"

Joe replied Nov 19, 2015 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"How can people not understand: if you attempt to take ground you cannot hold, you en…"

Joe replied Aug 19, 2015 to Conceptualising Kuffarphobia

11 Aug 19, 2015
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"Charlie Klendjian  resigns from Lawyers Secular Society over terrorism threats becau…"

Joe replied Aug 19, 2015 to Conceptualising Kuffarphobia

11 Aug 19, 2015
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"As I predicted months ago, the Sharia Watch "Draw Mohammed" event has been cancelled…"

Joe replied Aug 19, 2015 to Conceptualising Kuffarphobia

11 Aug 19, 2015
Reply by Joe

"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/11681616/Irish-minister-cal…"

Joe replied Jun 18, 2015 to Conceptualising Kuffarphobia

11 Aug 19, 2015
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"Airline staff take apart the claims of the Diet Coke Kuffarphobia incident http://sa…"

Joe replied Jun 9, 2015 to FFO: Muslim False Flag Ops and Media Collusion

26 May 28, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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