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It takes a nation to protect the nation

This is another forum I should have created long ago, to collect the many examples of our 2-tier system of policing and prosecution which have already passed by.  Of course, one of the main examples would be the treatment of Tommy Robinson, who gets endlessly charged, harassed and given excessive sentences, plus all those that attack him get off scot free.  Well, better late than never, we can start collecting these stories now.

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Political commentator and TV host Mohammed Shafiq says he will 'not be intimidated' after being confronted at a mosque.

Mr Shafiq was stopped by several people at a Birmingham Mosque and a video of the incident has since been posted online.

In the video Mr Shafiq is questioned over his views after it was alllleged he referred to murderer Mumtaz Qadri as a ‘terrorist’ on a  TV programme. Mr Shafiq was also called  a ‘British agent’.

Qadri was executed in Pakistan for the murder of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer.  Taseer had spoken in favour of blasphemy convicted Asia Bibi and against the blasphemy law.

The execution has seen some Muslims proclaim Qadri as a martyr and are quick to defend the murder of Taseer.

Mohammed Shafiq called the actions at the mosque which is believed to have taken place today as 'disgusting'.

He said, "Threatened today in Birmingham Mosque by some thugs because I spoke out against Mumtaz qadri's actions - disgusting". 

Zafer Ali, said, “This is getting ridiculous!”

Rubena Kashwar said, “What a place to pick an argument in God's home these people have no respect just scary to see that our beautiful religion is being miss interpretated.”

Mohsin Khan said, “Is there any wonder why Muslims are in the decadence we find ourselves in? When an imam (Leader) is pulling the rug under the feet of another believer.... Is this a way to lead?”

Shuaib Zaman said, “Although I agree with the actions of Ghazi Mumtaz Qadri Shaheed I am embarrassed by the actions of the Imam of this establishment. Please this is not the way of the Ahlul Sunnah wal jamat.”

So, Shuaib Zaman proclaims that it is correct to assasinate any politicians that stand in the way of the full implementation of Sharia Law.  Cameron, are you listening?  He's also talking about you.  But I guess instead, the police will visit me to warn against needlessly stirring up hate against Islam/Muslims/Sharia Law/Jihadi executioners/whatever.

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I really struggle to get people to grasp: we are living under sharia.  One example of this, is the refusal of the state/state employees to implement our laws on muslims. Two examples of this: 1) grooming gangs 2) FGM.  Other examples (less clear) are the refusal of police to do anything about death threats to Tommy (under sharia TR has no defence for blasphemy/mischief against islam); Labour's repeated attempts to implement (islamic) blasphemy laws between 2001 and 2006.

Once one understands that, despite it being publicly stated by media, state, etc. it suddenly makes sense. Someone was telling me yesterday of the number of hospital multi-faith rooms which are now muslim-only. Again: sharia. They will not share with others, and they are allowed to get away with it. How different would these kinds of things be when Muslims are 30% to 60% of the population? Not much different, only the punishments might be more serious.  Another way of saying "we live under sharia", is to say "we live under kuffarphobia"

Then I came across these two sites, where the guy is trying to do something similar to what we are trying to do.  In the 1st one he is taking the position I am above. He says: we are living under the Pact of Omar.

In the second, he extols "being kuffar".

I tried to leave a comment on the latter site, pointing to 4F as a prism by which to see the world through the lens of opposing kuffarphobia. And I tried to point him to Matt Pope's on-street KFR Society.

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

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