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It takes a nation to protect the nation

I like how the member of the Anointed says "was that delinquency involving foreigners has consistently decreased as a percentage of the total population since the 1970s."  Yet on the video from Hungarian TV I posted recently, they had the socialist mayor of a suburb of Paris saying that since 2009 he has been asking for the army to be deployed.  I've previously seen the (muslima) mayor of Marseilles on TV saying the same thing.

This leftist ideologue wants us to believe it is not "arabs and blacks" who are doing this.  Who is it?  The native French?  Or is he playing word-games, where "delinquincy" is a category for minor/juvenile crime?

On my last trip to Paris I was accosted by Sacre Couer by very aggressive touts (nothing like them in London), and near Gare du Nord by equally aggressive beggers (our British beggers are positively gentlemanly by comparison).  All these people in Paris were non-white.  On a previous trip, a gay friend and I intervened at about 2am on behalf of a group of American teenagers who were being treated very aggressively by 6 non-white French men (looking back, I can't believe we got involved).

I have quite a good nose for dangerous situations, and London feels very safe compared to Paris.  And the amazing thing about Paris, is that we tourists are only seeing the safe enclave in the city centre; London has rich and poor rubbing shoulder to shoulder practically everywhere.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9941044/Clo...

Flying in the face of the traditional image of a country seen as the land of good living, 'France, A Clockwork Orange' claims that mainstream politicians and the media have long masked a far more disturbing reality: it is rapidly descending into mindless violence and incivility.

"Nobody should ignore the reality," the book claims, namely that "every 24 hours 13,000 thefts, 2,000 attacks and 200 rapes" take place in France – figures far higher than official national statistics.

Claiming to lift the lid on a taboo"the 'ensavagement' of a nation" - it has been dismissed by some commentators and criminologists as biased, unscientific and downright racist, peddling far-Right theories linking crime and immigration.

But since its release mid-January, the book by Laurent Obertone, the pseudonym of a previously unknown 28-year old journalist, has sold 35,000 copies and a fresh print run of 20,000 is on sale. It reached fifth in France's weekly Ipsos-Livres Hebdo bestseller list and is currently third in Amazon's most requested book rankings.

In the book, he clinically enumerates one gratuitous crime after another gleaned from the press, police and judiciary, before coming to the conclusion that "ultra-violent crime" is exploding in France.

"The real level of insecurity, probably the worst in the history of the French Republic, is around 12 million crimes per year," he claims. To reach this figure, the author contends that true crime rates are "three times higher" than official figures as these only take into account registered or solved crimes.

Speaking on France 2, Mr Obertone said: "I am fighting for a truth I have felt and that does not get the media exposure it deserves." The book, which calls for a hard line on prison sentences, has struck a nerve as France's parliament this week begins a debate on reforms aimed at making prison a "last resort" by using fines, probation, treatment and training for less serious crimes.

They are due to reverse a decade of "zero tolerance" crime policy under Nicolas Sarkozy, who made his name as Jacques Chirac's hardline interior minister before becoming president.

Sales of Mr Obertone's incendiary jumped after Marine Le Pen, leader of the National Front, urged everyone to "read it and get others to read it".

Mr Obertone denies being a far-Right sympathiser saying he has "no political commitment".

But Mediapart, the Left-wing investigative website, claims to have "outed" him as the author of a far-Right, racist blog. He denies the charge and intends to press charges for defamation.

The criminologist Laurent Muchelli said: "This accumulation of more or less accurate figures and truncated crimes serves one purpose: to reach the (perfectly explicit) conclusion that all this is the fault of Arabs and Blacks and that hundreds of thousands of new prison places should be opened to shut them up."

The reality, he went on, was that delinquency involving foreigners has consistently decreased as a percentage of the total population since the 1970s.

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Don't laugh, but this is how the French intellectuals see it:

http://www.lovefilm.com/film/District-13-Ultimatum/132091

Good acting, amazing special effects and spectacular martial arts and acrobatics. That's what lifted this from a zero rating, because you have to have the political awareness of a child, to enjoy it. France has totally lost control of its precious 'banlieues', where the real, unofficial figures average 200 rapes, 2000 attacks and 13000 thefts every 24 hours. It now records 750 no-go zones for police and fire services. Even Left Wing and Muslim mayors have asked for the army to help them regain control. Yet Luc Besson makes a movie showing the mayor as the bad guy, ceding power to the 'virtuous' street gangs? Like so many French 'philosophes', he takes the cowardly way out. He chooses a message to get him flattering praise at the dinner party, not one that faces the ugly reality. We can only hope that his own car is torched while he's at his soiree, like the other 1200 burnt on New Year's eve alone.

I've seen District 13.  Stupid and offensive doesn't begin to describe it.  The no-go areas are controlled by muslims, vietnamese and Afrikans.  They are all going to be blown up by missile strike.  They go into Paris and commandeer the military control centre.

And who is Dr. Evil in this genocidal plan to wipe out the 'burbs?  The only jewish character in the entire story!  The only people to have any humanity are the muslims - the Afrikans and the Vietnamese are just cardboard cutouts to try and make out that the film is actually not just neo-nazi propaganda.

It should have been entitled Denial 13.

At 7am, the day starts in sunny, downtown Marseilles (the part of the city which the French govt. fought from being labelled a zone of military occupation).  At 7 am there were 20 shots from a Kalashnikov, followed by 12 shots from a 9mm gun.  

http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/09/an-ordinary-morning-in-marseille/#...

But hey, no need to say the city centre should be under martial law, just because the outskirts are.

I totally agree.  That movie made me sick.  If the French intelligentsia and media people are going to make Goebbels like propaganda like that, then they deserve what's coming to them.

Another ludicrous part is at the end where they negotiate with the Jewish mayor for the area to be redeveloped, then in a final coup de grace, demand that they be given jobs as well - to which, of course, he agrees.  The entire discussion takes place in a vacuum, where the concept of competing with Korea, China and India for productivity is irrelevant, and the question of  whether this band of druggies, thugs, neo-terrorists and dropouts have any skills to offer an employer, let alone discipline and a work ethic - that question is not even raised.

Welcome to La-la land.  Just print some more money, and give them government jobs, then everyone is happy, ok?

Joe said:

I've seen District 13.  Stupid and offensive doesn't begin to describe it.  The no-go areas are controlled by muslims, vietnamese and Afrikans.  They are all going to be blown up by missile strike.  They go into Paris and commandeer the military control centre.

And who is Dr. Evil in this genocidal plan to wipe out the 'burbs?  The only jewish character in the entire story!  The only people to have any humanity are the muslims - the Afrikans and the Vietnamese are just cardboard cutouts to try and make out that the film is actually not just neo-nazi propaganda.

It should have been entitled Denial 13.

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