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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Once again, it has become apparent that several different threads scattered about throughout 4F, actually belong together as one topic.  That topic is actually huge, so I can only briefly summarise it here.

A good starting point is the US constitution.  We can view that as a piece of code, designed to allow the democratic government of a country, with the main danger to be protected against, being 'faction', or the development of differing interest groups leading to 'pork barrel' politics.

The first protection put in place was the use of elected representatives, as opposed to direct democracy, which puts a brake on the passionate excesses of mobocracy.  Then the tri-partite division of government into Legislature, Executive and Judiciary allows those 3 arms of government, to hold each other in check in case of a power over-reach.  Finally, the Bill of Rights set down hard and fast limits on the powers of government, in case the 3 arms didn't manage to keep things safely.

It is clear that this system is breaking down.  For example, Black Lives Matter rejects the statements "All Lives Matter" and "Blue Lives Matter" and "White Lives Matter".  At Facebook HQ, someone struck through the statement "Black Lives Matter" and put "All Lives Matter" underneath.  The neo-racist virtue signaller Zuckerberg said that the person who did that would be fired.  Zuckerberg is one of the new elite; his actions are significant.

In the following video, Vox Day puts the matter very clearly.  There will come a point - and we are rapidly nearing it - when white people will have to abandon the dream of a non-discriminatory universalist system, and revert back to tribalism, because without it, simply, they will have no representation in government, and no-one to protect them.

Tags: Democracies, Faction, Gangocracy, Gangsterism, Reverting, Tribalism, Western

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Comment by Philip:

Civic nationalism and its limitations. Civic nationalism is an artificial construct that does not resolve conflict but rather preserves conflict. Ethnic nationalism evolves naturally and reflects correctly human nature and is more likely to survive due to the low level of conflict in homogeneous societies. It has to be genuine nationalism in order to survive, there has to be ethnic cohesion. American culture is European-American culture and functions only if the majority are the descendants of European immigrants and invaders, there is a low level of conflict. As soon as you open the borders to large scale immigration of non-Europeans the unity will fall apart and America will be torn apart by ethnic conflict. The first loyalty of the new-immigrants is to the ethnic group to which they belong, not to America. 

Likewise European nations are being destroyed by an indiscriminate immigration by people that have very little in common with the native populations. Only countries that have a clear ethnic identity can survive as nations. Globalism is confusion and anarchy. We have to be honest and recognize that we are all best served by nationalism. Calling someone racist and bigot for loving his country and people is unreasonable and destructive. Patriotism is positive. Muslims would be much better off in the Muslim countries that they come from, all that they do in our nations is cause problems for themselves and for us. In the long ongoing conflict between black and white Americans, blacks rally to their African-American identity when conflicts arise.

Comment by Philip

It's the same in Norway, the children of our beloved immigrants are mostly armed and selling drugs, dropping out of school and have parents on welfare. The third generation, the ones supposed to have been fully integrated by now, are hardened criminals with no allegiance to the nation.

The criminals here have moved into taking over legitimate businesses, using drug money and out-bidding competitors. They are putting people out of business and corrupting the system. Everything from building firms and garages to old people's homes and kindergardens. Anything they can buy up or establish and invest drug money in, and cheat the taxes with. This has become huge as no-one including the police have done anything about it.

I guess it is the same across all of Europe, it is the logical developement with a mafia out of control.  

I know it's just empty talk, but if I had the power there would be deportations on a vast scale. No birth rights, generations of immigrants deported, entire families, innocent or not, millions and millions until all of the nations of Europe become normal and entirely European.

I would be completely ruthless because once you start trying to sort out who has rights or not, you enter a self-defeating process bogged down by legal proceedings and vast expense. Everyone has to go or else we will continue the decline into a complete collapse of any sort of order.

The third generation, the ones supposed to have been fully integrated by now, are hardened criminals with no allegiance to the nation.

Another gem from Philip, that sums up the situation perfectly in a handful of words.

Muslims have a tribe to protect them.  They have gangs of thugs they can call up within minutes via mobile messaging. They have smooth talking Tariq Ramadans, ensconced in the distinguished academia of Oxford, ready to debate any opposing views. And they have smart suited lawyers ready to pick a legal fight against any objecting kuffar, and at the least, simply exhaust the offending kuffar's resources via Lawfare.

But the above couple have  no tribe, they have no group identity, they have no-one to protect them and represent their interests.  They are supposed to be protected by an anodyne, race/religion/gender blind system, which applies the law equally to all.  Unfortunately, that so-called blind system has been taken over by cowards with partisan interests, and it simply crumbles in the face of any strongly united and forceful enemy.  

Osama bin Laden said “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse”, but that didn't quite get to the root of the matter.  The problem is more that:

  • When people are faced with a choice between a weak but 'nice' horse, and a strong but sometimes 'nasty' horse, they will naturally choose the strong horse.

Thus 'nasty' Islam, or in fact any strongly united gang or factional interest, will naturally beat 'nice' democracy.

Thank you Alan. 

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

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Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
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