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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Do Muslim societies look after their environment, or do they just use it mindlessly till it is wasted?  Have the immense forests of Lebanon been replaced by barren scrub due to greed, stupidity and neglect by Muslims, or was that process inevitable?  Was Nebo, the 'land of milk and honey', inevitably going to become the land of dust and rock, or would it have been preserved if the Muslims had shown, as Churchill called it, 'good husbandry'?  Was the Gazans destruction of the greenhouses bequeathed to them by the Israelis a valid political statement, or was it yet another sign of their infantile, destructive and violent nature?

This forum is for collecting instances of long term damage to ecosystems, in order to enable us to answer those questions.

It will also be used for instances of Eco-terrorism, which appears again, to be a Muslim speciality.

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From a comment by Linnea on VDH's blog:

Saddam ignited two brutal wars, committed three separate genocides ( the Kurds, Marsh Arabs and the Shia of the south) and was directly culpable for three of the largest and most destructive eco-terrorist attacks the world has even known:

  • the 600 plus oil wells he set on fire during the Gulf War which burned for seven months spewing poison into the environment on a cataclysmic scale
  • the total destruction of the central marshlands of Iraq in his attempt to efface the Marsh Arab population. Over 7,500 square miles of marshland was wiped out
  • and Saddam keeping his threat to spill crude oil from Kuwait’s reserves into the Persian Gulf. He followed through on that promise in late January 1991 by spilling between 4,000,000 to 6,000,000 barrels into the Persian Gulf

All three acts of eco-terror were conducted without any protest from environmental movements.

http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/?p=8428

It could be argued that Islam is a product of and a reflection of the Arab mentality. Whether this is true or not is another matter. The savage pre-islamic culture is consolidated in Sharia law, the greatest mis-service Mohammed did to the Arabs and their victims was to make this violent culture be ordained by Allah, eternal and unchangeable. So any attempt to change and improve is discouraged. Muslim societies can never develope into humane societies. Thus no human rights and no concern about the destruction of the environment. Without Islam the Middle-East might have been a prosperous and civilised area with happy contented and peaceful populations, perhaps.

If Islam achieves its aim of global domination, it will be as if Western civilisation, all of its achievements and all of our history had never happened. Islam remorselessly grinds everything non-Muslim into dust and oblivion.

Good point, thanks.  I look forward to being able to pull these threads together more easily, at some point in the future.

What happened to Kosovo is very sad.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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