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Kuffarphobia via Immigration & Demographics

This room is to record where a people lose control over their society by an enemy using demographics as a weapon.  This is also a breach of the 4th Freedom of 4F: Freedom from voter importation.

Nation take-over is a defined strategy of Islam, voiced from the first Hadith of Mohammed upto present day Erdogan of Turkey.  It takes two forms:

  • Hijra, or Immigration into the kuffar country.  (Country take-over by invasion is in the Military Invasion room)
  • Over-breeding, by having numerous babies with numerous wives. Over breeding is not just a weapon against that society, it is an assault against all of humanity, since the earth's resources are already over-stretched by its current population
"Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future. I lost my diocese to Islam. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.”
Emil Nona, Chaldean Archbishop of Mosul.

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Not All Immigration Is Good.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 3, 2016. 2 Replies

The Liberal-Left.

Started by Philip Smeeton Oct 20, 2016. 0 Replies

The Calais Jungle Camp for Merkel's Children

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 15, 2016. 3 Replies

Govt. Petition: Stop allowing immigrants into the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Nov 7, 2015. 1 Reply

Demographics is Destiny

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Nov 2, 2015. 17 Replies

Ecosystem Damage - Deliberately or by Negligence

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 23, 2015. 4 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 17, 2015 at 10:22

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America is in the process of being divided into three main and distinct ethnic groups: European-Americans, mostly well integrated and English speaking; African-Americans, not well integrated and culturally separate; Latino-Americans, with their own language and culture that will render integration difficult. The open border policy that is being allowed to develope will also allow a new, fourth, fast growing and dangerous minority to develope; the Muslims. Asian-Americans are for the time being harmless minorities. The European- Americans built American and developed a culture that unified and that might be termed the American way-of-life, with freedom and democracy. I do not believe that any nation on this planet can survive open borders immigration. So what are the choices? how do you defend the American, and a tolerant, way of life? The answer is simple and obvious, you have to severely restrict immigration without it becoming blatantly racist. No-one is served by a country that is broken apart by an intensifying ethnic divide.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-marty/the-silent-minority_b_66...

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 15, 2015 at 9:58
Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 1, 2015 at 11:07

I think a small minority of the native British will be relegated to the role of terrorists hopelessly opposing the tyranny of Islam, whilst the rest of the population will be wondering what went wrong and accompanying their children to prayers at the local mosque. When the leadership of a nation does not recognize the danger and welcomes the enemy in, defence is futile. There is going, whichever way it goes, to be a lot of suffering and bloodshed.

There is a small possibility that the public will elect a government that will eradicate Islam from our shores. I do hope though that the British majority will react, I find it hard to believe that ordinary people do not understand the true nature of Islam and its purpose and aims, they need leadership. It is going to get anyway a lot worse before there is any form of awakening. Right now i find it very discouraging that at least half of the population appears to be opposed to and finds my point of view to be ridiculous.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 30, 2015 at 9:04

Comment from a Joe:

In Spain and India, the muslim invaders were geographically limited. That is not the case with the modern-day invasion. Instead of muslims being confined e.g. to the southern 1/3 of Spain, or the north of India, they are to be found from Galway to Oslo to Berlin to Munich and to Athens. In all these locations, those in positions of power are doing all they can to help the invaders. Our media do not even discuss the existence of HIzb ut Tahrir these last 5 to 10 years; they do not discuss that Blair and Cameron said they would ban HuT and did not; they do not contradict Clegg's lies about the koran in the days following Lee Rigby's Mohammedan execution.

Despite the ACPO saying that police now believe there are more than 10,000 victims of muslim grooming gangs per year in the UK, no more than 120 men have been convicted, and there has not been one prosecution of these grooming gangs in the past year. The people of India and Spain would not have stood by and permitted these things to happen to their children without a fight.

Muslims are 21% of the young criminals in the UK; 14% of all criminals. MI5 have stopped publishing the data on muslim convictions for terrorism - but even at the point at which they stopped, a mere 1/20th of the UK population had produced 332 islamic terrorists (the other 19/20ths of the population have not produced 1 anti-islam terrorist).
If every muslim in Europe stopped agitating for islam and went silent, the battle would still be lost on demographics alone. This is the position argued for by both Walter Laqueur (one of the greatest historians of 20th century European history) and by Mark Steyn.

I see no grounds for thinking that the history of the last 30 years will not continue for another 30 years. In 30 years time, a majority of the people under 40 will be muslims. Game over.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 30, 2015 at 9:03

Comment from Magnus:

I should like to put on record my belief about the so-called impending take over of Britain by the whirling dervishes or anyone else pretending to be an adherent of a 'religion of peace'.

I do not think this is inevitable. After many centuries, Hindu civilisation was not overwhelmed by the Muslims, despite many efforts of Muslim rulers to intimidate the native population by wholesale massacres and destruction of Hindu shrines. Moreover, the Chinese successfully repelled the efforts of Muslims when their land was subject to Mongol rulers. In fact, it was the attempt by the Mongols to employ Muslim tax-collectors that led to the overthrow of that dynasty and the emergence of the Mings.

So let us not loose heart. The British people are much stronger in their appetite for freedom and their determination to resist invaders than either the Hindus or the Chinese, whatever the political class may have in store for us.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 28, 2015 at 2:42

Comment by Alan Lake on January 20, 2015 at 3:19
Comment by Alan Lake on January 19, 2015 at 18:10

Yes, the figures are low.  We have better figures elsewhere in 4F, and I will eventually marshall all that info back into this central place.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 19, 2015 at 9:38

Updates about Pegida and other opposition to Islam belongs here perhaps, and though there is a section about crime and piracy on 4freedoms, immigrant crime might also belong here. With 70% of the inmates in French prisons being Muslim this has definitely a relationship to demography, I would like to know what the percentage of non-Muslim immigrants in French prisons is and the percentage of native French criminals. Then perhaps which crimes they are convicted of. The latest estimate in Norway is that only a half of all crimes are reported at all to the police.Even if there were no Muslims in the world, the replacement of the British population with any sort of immigrant population would be an issue. So statistics about the growth of other minorities. I like to see the bigger picture and how the problems that we are facing as a nation(as nations) link together, unemployment statistics and so on. Even some political leaders has admitted that immigration has a negative effect on the economy.

I am more a consumer in this area than a contributer, but all of the data that I am grateful to receive enables me to form my opinions.

I guess I'm talking about a correlation of all data(positive or negative) that relates to immigration and large minorities. And the effect on native populations. There are lots of nations world wide that have migration, demographical problems. I don't seem to hear much positive news about the large scale migrations that are occuring.

Comment by paul collings on January 19, 2015 at 8:10

As far as I'm concerned these figures are low. The idea that the population will double every generation is a prediction on the low side as well, and thinking the UK only has 2.7 million Muslims is a gross under estimation.

Its hard to prove of course, but even the government has had to admit there's probably a million un documented immigrants in Britain.  Again this is probably an un estimation.  When it comes to giving information that the public might not like, Governments always under estimate.

The rate of Mosque applications suggests an ever expanding Islamic population. The amount of veiled women on the streets is a give away as well.

School intake is increasing and its not because of kids who have two parents born in Britain.

Last year immigration brought in over half a million people. If that keeps up that's 7.5 million extra by 2030. how many will come from Islamic countries? As Cameron has rolled out the red carpet for Islam we can only presume a good percentage.

As more arrive and have children so the numbers will increase exponentially, not at some steady little predictable pace.  And as the Government has stopped the census we will not have any way of checking any figures until its too late.

The rate Islam is growing gives no chance of intergration. Those already here live in Islamic enclaves ruled by Sharia. These areas will continue to grow until they start looking more like Gaza than Britain.

The pressure to stop offending Islam is gathering pace. This isn't being done because they are some small minority. Its because they are becoming a sizable threat!

 

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