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Kuffarphobia via Immigration & Demographics

This room is to record where a people lose control over their society by an enemy using demographics as a weapon.  This is also a breach of the 4th Freedom of 4F: Freedom from voter importation.

Nation take-over is a defined strategy of Islam, voiced from the first Hadith of Mohammed upto present day Erdogan of Turkey.  It takes two forms:

  • Hijra, or Immigration into the kuffar country.  (Country take-over by invasion is in the Military Invasion room)
  • Over-breeding, by having numerous babies with numerous wives. Over breeding is not just a weapon against that society, it is an assault against all of humanity, since the earth's resources are already over-stretched by its current population
"Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future. I lost my diocese to Islam. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.”
Emil Nona, Chaldean Archbishop of Mosul.

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Attacks on Immigrant Helpers

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jun 14. 1 Reply

Not All Immigration Is Good.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 3, 2016. 2 Replies

The Liberal-Left.

Started by Philip Smeeton Oct 20, 2016. 0 Replies

The Calais Jungle Camp for Merkel's Children

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 15, 2016. 3 Replies

Govt. Petition: Stop allowing immigrants into the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Nov 7, 2015. 1 Reply

Demographics is Destiny

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Nov 2, 2015. 17 Replies

Ecosystem Damage - Deliberately or by Negligence

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 23, 2015. 4 Replies

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Comment by Kinana on July 8, 2015 at 20:37

Predictions are interesting and entertaining.  And in this case may be correct.  But like Philip I too have a focus.  The EDL and other organisation must continue to work away while they/we can in order to build a consensus on the threat of Islam; So that the government is eventually forced to act.  But will this happen in time, before the growing confidence of jihadists and Sharia-pushers take over the government?  I do not know.

Comment by Lee on July 8, 2015 at 18:56
Either way we look at it the edl will always be catergorized as a racist group by the sympathetic left
people are always labelling me a racist I just tell them now if you going to accuse me of something then please at least get your acquisation correct and accuse me of religious hatred and yes I will say guilty as charged
in order for our nation to be recognized as England then Christianity must be the overwhelming Faith and must not be under attack from any Faith
20 year anniversary of srebrenica Serb forces killed 8000 Muslims they remembered this in Westminster what about the 50 Serb villages attacked by Naser oric the Muslim General who butchered civilians cutting heads of to save ammunition he served 3 years then got aquited yet colnel milorad ulemeck of the Serbian army is still serving a 120 year sentence
Our nation is divided anyone who can't see or refuses to see what is happening today and is still prepared to sympathize support or practice Islam must be seen as a Muslim terrorist sympathizer
Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 8, 2015 at 17:38

I only have one focus Antony, and that is on the Muslims and their socialist supporters. No other group is at present such a clear threat to freedom and democracy. I do accept the principles of freedom, democracy and choice.

I want an English Democracy, a nation clearly recognizable as England. If a free and informed majority wants otherwise then I will have to live with it, but I feel that those that were once the indisputable majority want something similar to me, and have been denied it. I do not see small racist or otherwise bigotted groups as a problem or worth wasting time on. They are though part of the majority necessary in a theoretical vote to expel Islam from these sceptred isles.

I can only support one cause at a time, that is the limit of my capacity. To win we have to be focused on the objective, whatever it is that we each decide it to be,

Comment by Lee on July 8, 2015 at 13:20
I haven't watched the presantion yet but I will and I am sure it's interesting and enlightening just as your presentation was in malmo
I have heard so many presantations and speeches and put them to together with what you see on a daily basis only tell you one thing it's come to ahead
yes slowly wake up the masses but then we have to ask ourselves have we got time for that and secondly even if we wake up the masses it's still ending in civil war and ethnic cleansing
personally I think the masses are awake as much as we could wish for Islam has divided this country to its advantage the British didn't sympathize with the ira if you were Irish everyone was aware but now it's pathetic half the country sympathize so unfortunately they can't be awakened
It's not a case of marching into Bradford and frog marching Muslims to the docks I wish it was as easy as that
It's methodical planning and strategy having all your manpower permanently in one place permanently is the only way forward
bassically creating a militia in my eyes will have to happenn within the next 5 years or it's over
Comment by Antony on July 8, 2015 at 12:30

Phil - aside from the odious politics of neo-fascist groups, which actually puts most people off them, here is the challenge for bnp,nf,c18,britain first etc - all get together - march into a muslim area and then frogmarch the muslims to the docks and put them on a boat to pakistan ! ... how many people actually attend their paltry marches ?!!!

Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 8, 2015 at 12:07

I agree with Lee, drastic measures are necessary, Talking is only useful as propaganda, the process of persuasion is so slow that the growth of the Muslim population will outpace it.. We need either raw political power or a civil war, otherwise we will be enslaved. It is already too late for reasonable civilised solutions. These Muslims have to be physically kicked out of Britain and Europe. The only people that are prepared to either pass the necessary laws or to employ the necessary force are the far right. You cannot negotiate with Islam and you cannot turn Muslims into reasonable people, not fast enough or in large enough numbers to make a difference. Given a choice a Muslim naturally chooses Sharia. I do not care who my allies are as long as they want to exterminate Islam, (not people). We can settle our differences after this war is won. You all realise that we are at war, it is a war for our very existence. The consequences of not opposing with every means at our disposal are too terrible to be contemplated.

Comment by Alan Lake on July 8, 2015 at 4:53

Hi Lee,

I understand your frustration and intention to get something done, but I think you overlooked a key point Anthony made, that even if those groups like NF, BNP, etc had a compatible political message, their numbers are so small as to not make a difference.

As in military combat, so in political combat, its a numbers game. The best hope we've got is a slow waking up of the mass of the people.  There is hope: even the Guardian now has Nick Cohen using terms like Islamic Fascism.

I also used to think the Gay community are useless spectators in this fight (in which case, so are women as well), but they are not as bad as you think. There are gay protagonists who have stepped into this fight, they just keep quiet about being gay.

Yes, it will end in a bloody civil war - for which the fascist left are to blame, since we've done everything we can to try head this one off at the pass. 

And yes, the talking is over now. Joe calls this the post-dialogue world. I go one step further and call it the post-reason world, taking my cue from Steve Coughlin's brilliant presentation on the consequences of Saul Alinskys disruption of our systems of dialogue, and Alinsky's corruption of our concept of truth.

http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/the-red-pill-...

Comment by Lee on July 7, 2015 at 22:56

I agree and I once thought the same way edl and 4 freedoms are opposed to Islam so are the groups I mentioned so therefore they are allies
the gay community personally their two busy going to festivals taking drugs and partying they are not interested in the threat that Islam poses to them
I have personally tried to speak to members of the gay community with no affect
this community should be at the forefront against all forms of Islam but like I said they are not interested
I don't know your thoughts on were you think the threat of Islam is going in this country but mine are 1,000,000% it's going to end with ethnic cleansing
it won't be our government putting army on the street to do it they tend to stay away from thing like this so where will it come from it has to come from groups like I mentioned wether you like them or not we all share the same enemy as for the gay community and anyone for that matter who doesn't want to get involved then all I can say is form a line and March to somewhere safe under the blanket of the Geneva convention as refugee I am sure they we will be treated accordingly by the likes of Islamic state
The threat of Islam taking over the UK is real it's plain to see and at the end of the day I would prefer to be surrounded by ruthless merciless men what ever his political or racially views are as long as he is against Islam then he's or she has ticked the boxes
I don't like war but what we are looking at is an extermination of ourselves civil war and ethnic cleansing

The edl have enlightened the country to Islam personally tho it hasn't stopped Islam growing in this country and that's what needs to be done
bassically time for talking is done

Comment by Antony on July 7, 2015 at 21:49

Lee, groups like EDL and 4F are opposed to islam because it is anti-democratic, anti-semitic, anti gay/lesbian etc, why would they/we/I wish to side with nasty little groups such as nf,bnp,c18 who espouse pretty much the same ideology ?

These groups have done nothing more than act as "spoilers" for mass public discussion about the problems of mass immigration and islamification, and in any case are unpopular and small and of no value to the counter-islamist/pro-freedom movement.

Comment by Lee on July 7, 2015 at 21:11

Demographics I prefer to see it as a fifth column containing either muslim combatants and Muslim sympathizers
after all this is a war and the term 5 column is the correct military term
all these so called Muslim communities saying that these terrorists don't represent Islam is a lie
of course they represent Islam they represent the military wing of Islam and they both share the fundamental beliefs of Islam no drinking smoking pork and so on
What would these Islamic terror groups do if every time their was a coalition strike the British public said please Isis don't retaliate as they don't represent us
their is know other way to eradicate this problem it's us or or them we have known this for years
I just wonder how long have we got left
the Edl ,nf,bnp,c18, and other nationalist groups need to put their differences aside political religious or raciall views because their is one common enemy and it's Islam militant and moderate within the UK
let's not forget it's the anniversary of Srebrenica 20 years this month it was football firms that United to defend christianity against Islam
if moderate Muslims are so disgusted with what's being done by Isis and the likes then denounce your Faith if imans are so disgusted close your mosques if their was a christian group behaving this way I would denounce Christianity
unfortunately Christianity will be needed to be embraced by the UK like never before as it will be our only saviour

 

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