It takes a nation to protect the nation
This room is to record where a people lose control over their society by an enemy using demographics as a weapon. This is also a breach of the 4th Freedom of 4F: Freedom from voter importation.
Nation take-over is a defined strategy of Islam, voiced from the first Hadith of Mohammed upto present day Erdogan of Turkey. It takes two forms:
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A Muslim is bound to put the interests of muslims and islam before everything else. This bias is so obvious that it ought to exclude muslims from public appointments.
They call a white cop prejudiced but a muslim cop is something far worse.
The judge in Tommy Robinsons court case today was a muslim, and Tommy points out how many judges are now Muslim. So how can a kuffar possibly get a fair trial if the opposing party is also a member of the judges tribe?
We have to talk about immigrants as a group, as a whole, and the damaging effects. The reality that alternative, hostile, destructive and competitive cultures have been established. And not get drawn into a discussion about the few individuals that are integrated and contribute. It is, as an example, the sheer numbers of Muslims and their increase that will eventually destroy us and everything we stand for.
To discuss with Our opposition is futile. We can only talk to those that agree with Us. Our mission must be to increase the numbers of people that agree with Us.
As you point out, as in any discussion, it is all too easy to get side-tracked into arguments about pointless details. Keep to the main point and simply repeat your argument, statement. Say only- that is irrelevant or I have nothing to say on that matter, keep to the point.
The point being that most of the IMmigrants are parasites that have no right to be here, are a burden to the economy and culture and a threat to our security and wellbeing. And that they were best served being in their own countries and cultures and in building up their own nations- That is where their honour , pride and duty belongs.
There is no dialogue everything is polarized.
Reason says it is better to help people there where they belong.
Yes Kinana, we need to regain control of the language.
If challenged about 'invaders', on the false grounds that they aren't armed and the actual take-over will be decades away, you can downgrade it to 'freeloaders', since neither they nor their parents have contributed to this country, yet they have clearly come here to take benefits from it. As they try repudiate the claim of freeloaders, they will tie themselves in ridiculous knots, e.g. Syria doesn't need its brain surgeons, etc.
The same principle applies to BLM: shouldn't this be BCLM, i.e. Black Criminals Lives Matter, since the majority of the US alleged victims already have criminal convictions? If challenged on this, surely the left's point is that even though they are convicted criminals, they still have rights? So shouldn't they agree with this plea?
Alan Lake: 'Note the use of the word 'migration', instead of immigration, to blur what is actually happening.'
I am starting to use the word 'invaders' more and more now.
The whole idea that you can call yourself British or English just because you were born in England is false, a lie.
If I was born in China of English parents I would not be and never could be Chinese. If one of my parents was Chinese I would be half-Chinese.
At least two million so-called british would be deported if I was in power.
Also note that many "British Births" are the offspring of unwanted immigrants and therefore not in reality British.
The problem with being a success like the UK and USA, is that every undeserving parasite in the world wants a piece. If you inherit, win or earn a fortune you will be inundated with begging letters.
Our leaders are too weak to stop immigration. The message should be to those seeking a free ride is that they should make their own countries work. And not come here and ruin our nation.
In contrast, the United Kingdom is expected to see an increase in the population of 5.2 per cent over the same time period to 71.1 million people, driven in large part by mass migration.
Note the use of the word 'migration', instead of immigration, to blur what is actually happening.
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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