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Final Conversation Between Morsi and SisiMorsi issues threats to the very end. The General speaks with authority and dignity. Exposed: Final Conversation Between Morsi and Sisi by… Started by Kinana |
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Churches Burning across EgyptI start this page/discussion to keep track of the ongoing persecution and terrorism of the non-Muslims (mostly Copts) in Egypt. -- BREAKING… Started by Kinana |
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Egypt: Future President (12 yrs old) explains Democracy and the Muslim BrotherhoodThis 12 years old boy is just stunningly, incredibly smart. Listen to him as he excoriates the Muslim Brotherhood, relentlessly dissecting… Started by Alan Lake |
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Protests in Egypt: from Dictatorship to Democracy or IslamismRegime Change in Egypt by Mudar ZahranFebruary 9, 2011 at 4:45 am http://www.hudson-ny.org/1872/regime-change-in-egypt Print Send Com… Started by Indoeuropean |
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Aug 14, 2013 Reply by Alan Lake |
High rate of harassment, sexual assault in Egypt and other Arab nationshttp://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/17/high-rate-of-harassment-sexual-assault-in-egypt-and-other-arab-nations/ CBS News correspondent Lara Log… Started by Joe |
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Egyptian cabinet discusses war against IsraelLast week the Egyptian government discussed the Ethiopian plan to build a dam that would divert the course of the Nile, a move Egypt thinks… Started by Alan Lake |
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Welcome to 4 Freedoms!
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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