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Kuffarphobia in Egypt

لأقباط مصر في الوقت الحالي يعاني من العنف والاضطهاد من جانب الاصوليين الاسلاميين

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Nazi Roots of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 21, 2015. 33 Replies

Churches Burning across Egypt

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Oct 2, 2013. 34 Replies

Egyptian cabinet discusses war against Israel

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Jun 16, 2013. 2 Replies

The brotherhoods plan for a Fascist Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Dec 11, 2012. 4 Replies

Egypt's 'Gassed' Dogs

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 14, 2012. 4 Replies

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Comment by Antony on December 2, 2012 at 10:02
Comment by Antony on November 6, 2012 at 9:48

Muslim Brotherhood are turning into Leninists ;

Comment by Antony on July 15, 2012 at 11:01
Comment by Antony on July 14, 2012 at 14:32

Tarek Fatah on Egypt's Mo Bro Dictatorship ;

Comment by Joe on April 26, 2012 at 16:36

Newscasters subjected to terrorist threats for not adopting a salafist line:

Comment by Joe on April 12, 2012 at 9:29

Muslim Brotherhood's presidential candidate: every aspect of life in Egypt will be subjected to islamic law. 

“Everywhere, the Brothers are working to restore Islam in its all-encompassing conception to the lives of people,” Shater says in the address. “Thus the mission is clear: restoring Islam in its all-encompassing conception, subjugating people to God, instituting the religion of God, the Islamicization of life, empowering of God’s religion, establishing the renaissance of the ummah [worldwide Muslim nation] on the basis of Islam... Every aspect of life is to be Islamicized.

The English translation is now available on the homepage of Current Trends in Islamist Ideology, a journal published by the US-based Hudson Institute.

I find it astonishing that anyone would not expect the MB to implement sharia across Egypt.  From their inceptioin, the MB have worked alongside salafists. There is no dispute they share the same goal, they just have different methods (the MB was based on the Nazi party and structured accordingly, and had a covert military wing).

Comment by Joe on February 3, 2012 at 23:19

Muslim fanatics now in control of Kuwait.

The Islamist secured 34 seats in the 50-member parliament, results showed today.

All four of the female MPs who served in the previous parliament lost their seats. Liberals, who had five seats in the previous parliament, now have just two.

Comment by Indoeuropean on February 2, 2012 at 6:46

Of course there is a battle at international level, when it comes to the two blocks Western and Near Eastern, for the promotion of universal human Rights/Duties and/or the promotion of religious Rights/Duties. No wonder that the religious lobby (which is as rich as the non religious one, or democratic one) promotes the spreading of its Ideology, openly fighting against the Idoelogy of the other(s). Either people get helped NOT TO FOLLOW Ideologies, and to think with thier own free critical Minds, and on the base of Ethics (don't do unto others what you don't want to be done unto you ...), or we are condemned (condemned) to be insert in a world à la Orwellian 1984. Cheerful greetings (...).

Comment by Alan Lake on February 1, 2012 at 19:22

Of course it should be done in stages.  This is exactly how the great Sayid Qutb has explained in his book Milestones.

"This should be a period in which ... we find ... wives for all the bachelors"

Maybe Islamic maths is different to "Western" maths, but that could be a bit difficult, if the rich guys have already grabbed 4 each  :-)

Comment by Kinana on February 1, 2012 at 15:58

Sunni Scholar Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: Islamic Law Should Be Implemented Gradually in Egypt; There Should Be No Chopping Off of Hands in the First Five Years

Following are excerpts from an interview with Sunni scholar Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Al-Nahar TV on January 26, 2012: 

Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: I think [the shari'a] should be implemented gradually. This is a law of the shari'a and a law of nature. 


We should do things gradually. We should prepare the people, teach them. People have to learn. We have to make an effort to teach people the truth about Islam. 


People do not understand the shari'a properly. We have to teach people the laws of the shari'a and explain them, before anything else. I think that in the first five years, there should be no chopping off of hands. This period should be dedicated to teaching things. A transitional phase… This should be a period in which we teach people the true laws of the shari'a. when we find food for all the hungry, schools for all the pupils, hospitals for all the sick, homes for all those who want them, wives for all the bachelors – then we can discuss the punishment for theft. 


All the [presidential] candidates are good, but I support the candidacy of our brother Abd Al-Mun'im Abu Al-Futuh. 

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