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Kuffarphobia via Free Speech Attack & Deceit


Kuffarphobia via Free Speech Attack & Deceit

{This room should be split into two: one for Free Speech and the other for Civil Society. We hope to perform this re-organisation at a later date.}

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted, so these are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation. The Islamic term for this is riddah
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

Clearly Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

Also, Crime and Terrorism cover the initial costs of the acts, but even if brought under control, the whole society is left with the administrative burden of extra security checks, as has happened with car insurance and aircraft journeys.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada

Discussion Forum

Free speech, free expression.

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Kuffarphobia via Hijacked Watchmen / NGOs

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Civil War

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Language Tricks used by the Media

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Feb 14. 12 Replies

The Muslim Controlled BBC (MC-BBC)

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 25. 49 Replies

The Post-Dialogue World

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Nov 18, 2015. 1 Reply

Images of Mohammed - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Nov 7, 2015. 10 Replies

Dealing with Blasphemy - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 10, 2015. 1 Reply

The Death of Socialism.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 4, 2015. 5 Replies

Geert Wilders: Speeches and Incidents

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Joe Aug 18, 2015. 2 Replies

The Racist Policies of the NUJ

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jul 13, 2015. 5 Replies

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Comment by Alan Lake on Sunday

Islam is a special case of a "religion", in that it is a violent, supremacist political ideology.

However, it can be handled as an example of the kinds of ideologies that are generally banned, i.e. there is no need to create or invoke some special case law in order to have it banned.  It can be banned under the general category of political ideologies that promote violence and hate, and seek the overthrow of our secular democratic state.  So it should be banned along with other totalitarian, anti-democratic ideologies like Fascism and Maoism.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Sunday

Islam is a special case and should be banned.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Sunday

We can't agree about everything Heather. As this website is about freedom; race religion, politics and sex; what should be forbidden and what not; are bound to pop up in the discussion. Being as opinionated as I am, I try to restrict my statements on race and sex. Politics and beliefs though have to be challenged.

Comment by Alan Lake on Saturday

I agree that our treacherous leaders have dumped here millions of people that hate us and want to usurp our society,  but given where we are now, what is to be done?  Yes, they can read their books of hate in their own countries and plot our downfall from there, but I don't see why they should be allowed to do it over here.  Its a contradiction in terms, as Popper and Burnham said, tolerance of intolerance in the end, leads to the demise of that very tolerance - so the whole raison d'etre becomes pointless.

I think the first line of attack is their "holy" scripture of hate, violence and treason, after all, all good regressives are supposed to be against hate and violence now aren't they?  The truth is that the fascist left are deep down jealous of the fascism of Islam, so they cleave to it, but I don't think this is a point we should let go.

But from where we are now, there are no easy answers, I'm afraid.

Comment by Antony on Saturday

I think muslims should be free to read the Koran - but I think it is a pile of crap and we should all be free to say so ! - the main question is not whether or not the koran should be on sale over here - it is the fact that our treacherous rulers have allowed in millions of unwanted muslims & Africans and then allowed then to dictate the narrative to us !

Comment by Alan Lake on Saturday
Thats an interesting argument Anthony, so how would you react to its use by an Islamo fascist? He could say its none of our business what books he reads like the "holy" quran etc, even where those books mandate the killing of us kuffar, and the overthrow of our secular democratic state.

Any encouragement of criminal behaviour and the destruction of our democratic system, should be stopped surely? The root of Islamo fascism is in their 'sacred' scripture, so whether they are wiping us out now, or in 50 years time when they have demographic control, the statements of 'racial' superiority are there, just like they are in Mein Kampf. So theres no need to wait 50 years to react. We can do it on the basis of their WRITTEN ideology of hate and violence. I cant see any alternative to that approach.

BTW, i withdraw what i said before. There needs to be some sort of social contract which you sign up to when you reach voting age, but it needs to be as general and open as possible. I just think its so crazy that we talk about the social contract, without ever actually signing up for anything! It should just say something about supporting the democratic model and refraining from criminal acts, in return for the benefits the state will offer.

There may need to be a caveat that "criminal acts" excludes political acts which are criminalised by the government, or you've opened the door to Totalitarianism again. So if i steal your wallet, there is no political meaning to that, but if Tommy attacks an ISIS flag, there is a political meaning, as well as a criminal one, so that would not be part of the social contract. Also note that the latter Tommy act is one of political protest WITHIN the democratic model, not one of insurrection to REPLACE the democratic model, as with Sharia Law.

You can see what im getting at. Theres a hornets nest of non-trivial problems lurking in here, and i should never have linked the two problems (of porn, and of the overthrow of the democratic state), as they are on different scales of risk.
Comment by Antony on Saturday

It is none of any one else's business to decide what consenting adult literature other consenting adults can or can not read - such politics should be left up to the neo-fascists and islamists.

Comment by Alan Lake on Friday
I think that anything that encourages violence towards, and abuse of, women, should be controlled in some way.

I suspect that anything in fact, which encourages criminal activity, should be under some sort of oversight. At one time it was - thats why Clockwork Orange was banned for so long.

But the current piecemeal approach is hopeless. There needs to be a full and consistent theory about the boundary between free speech and encouraging criminal behaviour and treason. Then that theory should be written into the social contract, which all citizens should be required to subscribe to, upon attaining the age of majority / voting.

Of course, some people could refuse to sign up - but then they would be excluded from receiving any of the state benefits of society, and possibly the vote, as well.
Comment by Heather Gilbert on Friday

Not often I disagree with you Philip, but I vehemently disagree on this topic. All porn is harmful. I'd like to see a complete ban.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Friday

Most porn is educational, therapeutical, stimulating, healthy, entertaining and harmless. Some porn is not and is harmful.

It has to be monitored to uncover and punish actual criminal activity; such as real rape and murder, sex trafficking slavery and child rape.


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Expenditure
The government can spend money in any way it wants  - except one where the debt burden passes across generations (20 years)
4. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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