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Free Speech & Civil Soc


Free Speech & Civil Soc

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted, so these are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

Clearly Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

Also, Crime and Terrorism cover the initial costs of the acts, but even if brought under control, the whole society is left with the administrative burden of extra security checks, as has happened with car insurance and aircraft journeys.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada

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Comment by Philip Smeeton 3 hours ago

This erosion of free speech has only one cause and that is Islam. The logical and reasonable response would be to ban Islam, not free speech. Freedom of expression was doing fine before Islam intruded itself upon us. It's not tempting to fight for free speech when you know that your punishment for speaking freely is to be locked up in prison together with islamists. The Muslim attitude to freedom of expression is to kill anyone that disagrees with them. We are getting raped in every way imaginable by Islam.

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on Friday

We are getting side-tracked here about literary merit. The point is that speech and freedom of expression has to be protected whether it is good or bad writing, comment or drawing.

Comment by Antony on Friday

Charlie Hebdo - literary indulgence of murder ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday

It occurred to me that those that contribute to 4freedoms are concerned with telling the truth and with exposing lies. This goes beyond being political. Just now though it seems that the Left are doing most of the lying along with their Muslim allies.

Falsehoods; unconscious, self-deluding, unintentional or good-intentioned, are still lies. Asking the simple question- is this true?- does not seem to occur to many people. Is what I am saying, is what I believe true?

I remember though that I am a skeptic and doubt everything!

In order to be able to function we have to accept certain things, certain principles, to be true.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday

I can understand someone shutting up because they cannot bear living in constant fear of being murdered, but writers voting against freedom of expression? that is unfathomable.

In regard to that I wrote below. Only one Muslim country signed up to the human rights convention (the UAE) the rest argued (45 muslim countries) that their rights were covered by Sharia Law. Whenever a Muslim demands his human rights he does not have any, and he does not recognise the human rights of any non-Muslim. According to Islam, (that is every Muslim, 1.8 billion of them), everyone Muslim or infidel is subject only to Sharia Law.

Comment by Antony on Thursday
Comment by Antony on Thursday
Comment by Philip Smeeton on Wednesday

Everyone must always have the right to express an opinion, however unpopular. No one must ever be given the right to beat or kill someone for expressing an opinion. As Islam incites and condones violence towards and murder of those that express an opinion, about Islam, it has no right to an opinion and must be outlawed.

It is inciting to violence that is the crime, not the expressing of an opinion.

People that do not believe in and deny others their human rights, do not themselves deserve to be given human rights. Rather they should be excluded from good society.

Muslim countries do not conform to standard concepts of human rights.

When the United Nations adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (“UDHR”) in 1948, Saudi Arabia refused to sign it as they were of the view that shariah law had already set out the rights of men and women.

Comment by Antony on Wednesday

Francine Prose reminds us of why so many novelists are stupid ;


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Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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