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Free Speech and Civil Society


Free Speech and Civil Society

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted, so these are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

Clearly Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

Also, Crime and Terrorism cover the initial costs of the acts, but even if brought under control, the whole society is left with the administrative burden of extra security checks, as has happened with car insurance and aircraft journeys.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada

Discussion Forum

The Muslim Controlled BBC

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 25. 36 Replies

Civil War

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Aug 12. 74 Replies

The Racist Policies of the NUJ

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jul 13. 5 Replies

Cognitive Dissonance.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton May 6. 3 Replies

BBC Bias

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 28, 2014. 10 Replies

The Death of Socialism.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Dec 25, 2014. 2 Replies

Enforcement of Sharia Law on the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Nov 23, 2014. 6 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton 3 hours ago

Waters: "There are a couple of glaring problems here and as usual, they are overwhelmingly the fault of the incalculably dangerous loony left.

These are, as I’ve mentioned, a determined denial of reality, and the redefinition of language in order to maintain that denial."

The left believe that they are being impartial when they are not.
I assume that most languages have clear definitions and can be understood by anyone that can speak that language, and that this is universal.
However socialists, muslims and other sects appear to be speaking the same language as the impartial listener but they are in fact using different definitions to certain key words, so there is no universal communication. They can only be fully understood by members of their own sect.


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Anne Marie Waters on today's Victoria Derbyshire TV Show ;

Comment by Antony on August 26, 2015 at 11:06
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 26, 2015 at 10:37
We are obviously outnumbered in the media, my only consolation is that the media is completely out of touch with public opinion.
A Muslim woman sits there in her scarf, that states that she has submitted to being treated as a second class citizen, and defends free speech as long as it does not offend religious sentiments. I can agree that the limit to free speech is that it should not incite to hatred and violence. This is just common law and common sense. However criticism of religion and the behavior of the followers of a religion is wrongly described as racism and incitement to hatred and violence. Most of the violence and hatred that we now witness worldwide has been incited by Islam. To point out this fact is not incitement to hatred, violence and racism, it is pointing out a problem and asking for a solution and an end to it all. You cannot compare condemnation of Jews and blacks, that is clearly racist, to criticism of a religion and its leader. It is not racist to criticize Jesus and the behavior of Christians.
The threat to public safety is not Waters and her gang, it is the Muslim with a knife in his hand.
When the feeble-minded leftists and Muslims have no valid arguments they resort to morality and call their opponents evil and racist.
Galleries do not refuse to show Mohammed cartoons out of respect for religion, it is because they are terrified of Muslims.
A simple fact is that if Muslims were removed from our societies this problem would leave with them.
Comment by Antony on August 26, 2015 at 8:24

Anne Marie Waters on BBC live - just the debate with her extracted ;

Comment by Joe on August 25, 2015 at 12:38

By the time Alan posted that last link, the comments were closed.

Open for comments for less than 24 hours.

Comment by Alan Lake on August 25, 2015 at 0:55

Is it the beginning of the end for online comments?


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Expenditure
The government can spend money in any way it wants  - except one where the debt burden passes across generations (20 years)
4. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)

An additional Freedom from Religion may be deduced from equal application of the law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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