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Free Speech & Civil Soc

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted, so these are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

Clearly Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

Also, Crime and Terrorism cover the initial costs of the acts, but even if brought under control, the whole society is left with the administrative burden of extra security checks, as has happened with car insurance and aircraft journeys.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada

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Civil War

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Feb 25. 70 Replies

The Muslim Controlled BBC

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 28. 27 Replies

BBC Bias

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 28, 2014. 10 Replies

The Death of Socialism.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Dec 25, 2014. 2 Replies

Enforcement of Sharia Law on the UK

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Nov 23, 2014. 6 Replies

Prevention of Terrorism: Censoring the Koran

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Oct 11, 2014. 3 Replies

UK: The Telegraph: Friend or Foe? - by P A Murphy

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Paul Austin Murphy Jun 23, 2014. 11 Replies

UK: Brian Eno - the perfect Dhimmi

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by shiva Feb 20, 2014. 2 Replies

Bostom: Sharia Law & Blasphemy

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Feb 18, 2014. 1 Reply

Muslims Abuse Race Relations Law

Started by Paul Austin Murphy. Last reply by Paul Austin Murphy Feb 8, 2014. 4 Replies

The Socialist Workers Party/SWP (now Unite Against Fascism/UAF)

Started by Paul Austin Murphy. Last reply by Paul Austin Murphy Jan 10, 2014. 4 Replies

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Comment by Antony on March 2, 2015 at 15:02
Comment by Kinana on February 28, 2015 at 23:21

A prominent American blogger of Bangladeshi origin has been hacked to death with machetes by unidentified assailants in Dhaka, after he allegedly received threats from Islamists.

The body of Avijit Roy, founder of the Mukto-Mona (Free-mind) blog site – which champions liberal secular writing in the Muslim-majority nation – was found covered in blood after an attack that also left his wife critically wounded.

Comment by Antony on February 27, 2015 at 8:17

Atheist blogger hacked to death ;

as he is USA - wonder if Obama will be complaining about this ?..

Comment by Alan Lake on February 25, 2015 at 5:25

A good, if depressing, collection Philip.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 24, 2015 at 15:45

Message to the leftist liberal islam excusers: Wake Up!

These news reports (from just one day in the year 2015) are hard facts about the activities of Muslims, the true nature of Islam, and the way that Muslims think. They think in a manner completely alien to the leftist liberal mindset.

Muslims must die if they renounce Islam.

Islam destroys any culture that it does not approve of.

The islamists are intent on uniting by force the Muslim world, and their next objective is the rest of the world, our world.

The more you give to Muslims the more they will demand. The Hijab is a symbol of gender discrimination and should be banned for that reason. Women are second class citizens in Muslim countries.

Muslims murder jews, christians and infidels because according to the teachings of Mohammed those that do not convert to or submit to Islam must die. This is fact and practiced by those that understand Islam.

Muslims are masters of deception and in playing the role of victim. They behave badly and then shout discrimination when people react negatively to Muslims and Islam. Islam itself discriminates women and non-Muslims.

Turkey is reluctant to attack the Islamic State of ISIS because Turkey is in the process of again becoming an Islamic State and its leadership also desires a Caliphate of united muslim states.

Young European Muslims flock to join ISIS and return trained as terrorists to plan and carry out terrorist atrocities in Europe, that will also kill and maim leftist liberals and their families.

The news is full of reports of Muslim wrongdoing every single day. No other group of people behaves so badly on such a large scale.

Close your eyes to what is happening, do not listen to what I say, keep voicing your liberal and tolerant principles. Ignore the growth of the Muslim population in your country and the increasing radicalisation of Muslim youth. Ignore all of the rape and other crime where Muslims predominate. Keep hating and branding as racists those that attempt to inform you, deny them the right to speak through your beloved hate crime laws.

But whatever you do never say that I didn't warn you. Because for you it is already too late and your world will disappear along with mine.

Unless of course people like me, that are still in touch with reality, save you.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 19, 2015 at 15:54

If you are afraid for your life or for the safety of your family, then shut up. Or at least use a false name and make sure no one can find out where you live. This is just good sense, whatever you do do not stop telling the truth as you see it because people are getting murdered for doing so. I'm stupid I use my own name and photo and well, my address is in the phonebook, I don't give a shit but I will if they come knocking on my door. High profile people have to take the precautions that I do not, because they really are in deadly danger. 

The point is that I, you and these high profile people should not have to be afraid for their lives. Just for having an opinion and pointing out what they believe to be true, and critcizing the appalling behaviour of others. Which is why the betrayal of truth by Obama is so criminal. This has everything to do with Islam. Islam is guilty. Without Islam we would not be experiencing this terror. So many thousands of murderuos terrorists can't be wrong, they find ample justification for their actions in the teachings of Mohammed. It is those that deny the guilt of Islam that are the liars, not the savage terrorists. They have understood Mohammed's instructions. That is what islam, embodied in the Koran and Hadiths, is an instruction manual on how to spread Islam through terror and deception. And the final goal is clear and simple and easily understood and undeniable- fight for the cause until everything is Muslim.

There is never an excuse for lying, unless you are a Muslim, there is an excuse for fear and silence though.

Comment by Antony on February 18, 2015 at 17:29
Comment by Alan Lake on February 18, 2015 at 0:11

Charlie Hebdo: Wiltshire Police 'sorry' for requesting subscribers' details -

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2015 at 12:55

It was with good reason that the citizens of the US were allowed to bear arms.

The increasing threat from crime and terrorism once more justifies this right.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 1, 2015 at 18:58

My reply to this article at LibertyGB.

Have We Carefully Thought of the Consequences of Absolute Free Speech?

27 Jan 2015 05:59 am | (Enza Ferreri)

Freedom of speech does not imply that you believe in everything it means that you can have an opinion about everything, and an opinion about that which you believe in. I have to be free to say anything I want, but I do not believe in everything. And being a skeptic I question everything. Incitement to violence is the only expression that deserves condemnation. But criticism of systems of belief or ways of life has to be allowed even if it offends someone. The expression of infantile bad taste has also to be allowed under the principle of free speech. No subject is sacred under freedom of expression; no group of people, no individual, no religion, nothing. Every person and ideology is free to defend itself or be defended by words but no drawing or writing no matter how offensive to some must be forbidden. Christianity is not worth rallying around, Freedom and democracy and the right to offend are.


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Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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