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It takes a nation to protect the nation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nu9CcEZJQU

28th September 2012 near the US Embassy in Tokyo, Japan members of the Muslim community (mostly from Pakistan) gathered to protest (what they perceived) as slander against the Islamic faith in the form of the 14 minute YouTube trailer entitled "The Innocence of Muslims."

They demanded that the US government suspend the right of freedom of speech and conscience and called for the death of the film makers. 

A counter demonstration supporting the right to freedom of speech and expression was held nearby.

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Odd that this happens in Japan but most of the signs are in English.  A Demo intended for an international audience which is mostly English speaking?

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Odd that this happens in Japan but most of the signs are in English.  A Demo intended for an international audience which is mostly English speaking?

Not so odd if most of the protesters were pakistanis, as English along with Urdu is pakistans official language.

 

Japan usually has a sensible and strict immigration policy - what are these islamists doing there ? I trust the Japanese will do the wise thing and deport them back to Pakistan...or are they going as soft as the West ?

 Its hard to find the exact number of muslims in Japan. This seems to be about the best estimate.

These figures are from the 'Statistics of forgien residence'. It does not take into account

any japanese  converts. The Total number is quite small, so i would say its a case of a small

number of muslims making a great big noise, and getting all the attention. But isn't that how they

start? 

There was a counter demo near by. If anyone can find a vid of this it might put it in perspective.

Or maybe we're not allowed to see people protesting in favour OF free speech.

 

Foreigner residents from member nations of OIC in Japan

Nation

End of 2005

End of 2000

Bangladesh

8,377

7,176

Indonesia

56,010

19,346

Iran

6,534

6,167

Turkey

7,577

1,424

Malaysia

78,645

8,386

Pakistan

10,641

7,498

TOTAL

167,784

49,997 

Paul, thanks for the stats.  over a 5 year period that is over a 300% increase.  Seems like Muslims are not happy in their own sharia land.

Why have the Freedom Fighter demonstrators all got their faces covered or blurred out?  They can't possibly be afraid of the "Religion of Peace" can they?  What evidence is there of that?

Also, note how the Islamic spokesman twisted the question "Do you state that you will kill anyone who insults your religion?" into "We love our prophet so we are happy to die for him".

Methinks the interviewer went a little soft at that point.

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