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Kuffarphobia via Free Speech Attack & Deceit

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted. These are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation. The Islamic term for this is riddah
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

This room should be split into two: one for Free Speech and the other for Deceit and False Flag Ops (FFO). This will be done later.  Also, Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada


http://4freedoms.ning.com/video/buried-chest-high

N.B. Nesriin (the poetess) has already closed her channel due to excessive trolling. The above video is from a mirror site.

Discussion Forum

Censorship by Twitter

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Nov 3. 8 Replies

Censorship by Google / Youtube

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 12. 3 Replies

Speaker's Corner: Status and Events

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Sep 26. 9 Replies

The Post-Dialogue World

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Aug 6. 13 Replies

The Muslim Controlled BBC (MC-BBC)

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Jun 28. 82 Replies

Outlawing Words and Symbols

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Joe Jun 12. 10 Replies

Martin Sellner, Tommy Robinson, Speakers Corner.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Mar 23. 7 Replies

Censorship by Facebook

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 9. 2 Replies

Tim Burton Jailed.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Kinana Aug 6, 2017. 5 Replies

Civil War

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony May 3, 2017. 79 Replies

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Comment by Joe on January 25, 2014 at 14:04

cultural enrichment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25877200

Clearly the German court system is simply not geared up for this kind of barbarism.

Comment by Antony on January 22, 2014 at 7:16

Alan - link at bottom does'nt work - so here is a vid link I found ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xULhq-V1KE

Comment by Alan Lake on January 22, 2014 at 5:31

From some members:

Remember what I told you about the "secular, socialist muslim" who spoke at that leftist meeting last March?  He was speaking because he was approved of by black feminists to talk about the threat of islamic-fascism.  

He said:  "the mosques and the police are in collusion - the police have handed local control over to the mosques, and in return the police protect muslims and islam from criticism".   I was the only person in the room whose mouth was agape.  

It is another of the corollaries of the gangsterism that is the heart of islam.  We are en route to have a mafia.  The police will withdraw, the gangs/muslims will extend their reach/armouries; they will extort "protection money" (jizya), and what seems like a good situation for the police at the beginning (low crime figures), will end up with the police having to be paramilitary to control the gangs.
If non-experts like us can see this trajectory, why on earth can't the experts?

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Subject: Al Jazeera English: UK police overseer says vigilante work afoot

The Sharia-pushers are expanding their influence for sure.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541635/Murders-rapes-going...
Murders and rapes going unreported in no-go zones for police as minority communities launch own justice systems

Chief Inspector of Constabulary: ‘There are some communities born under other skies who will not involve the police at all. I am reluctant to name the communities in question, but there are communities from other cultures who would prefer to police themselves.
‘There are cities in the Midlands where the police never go because they are never called. They never hear of any trouble because the community deals with that on its own.


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Subject: Police no longer called to Musim controlled areas

I didn't realise it was so pernicious. So in the end, the so called Muslim Patrols in TH were a red herring. The biggest threat is from a large, spreading, but quiet/covert adoption of self policing by Muslim areas.
You can see where this is going. One day the govt. Will accept it as a fait accompli, because:
1. If they try police the area, it causes a riot
2. Its being policed by Muslims for free anyway, so saving costs.
Al Jazeera English: UK police overseer says vigilante work afoot.http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwqYiyoRA
Comment by Alan Lake on January 12, 2014 at 4:16

Probe Into South Asian Vote-Rigging Claims

The Electoral Commission warns "cultural approaches to democratic participation" are not an excuse for ballot-fixing.

The Electoral Commission has pinpointed areas of concern

An investigation has been launched into concerns Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities are more prone to vote-rigging.

The Electoral Commission said differences in "cultural approaches to democratic participation" were not acceptable excuses for electoral fraud.

And while it emphasised that corruption was not confined to South Asian communities, it admits it is such a concern that further investigation should be carried out.

The commission has identified 16 areas where there are more likely to be complaints about electoral fraud.

They include Birmingham, the centre of vote-rigging scandal in 2004, which a judge described as worse than a banana republic.

Also on the list are Blackburn with Darwen, Bradford, Burnley, Calderdale, Coventry, Derby, Hyndburn, Kirklees, Oldham, Pendle, Peterborough, Slough, Tower Hamlets, Walsall and Woking.


Bradford has been pinpointed as an area where fraud is more likely

The commission said it was crucial the police and electoral officers in those areas improved safeguards against voter fraud ahead of May's local and European elections.

The commission report said: "The evidence and views we have heard raise significant questions about whether individuals within these communities are able effectively to exercise their right to vote, and whether they are able to participate in elections on the same basis as other electors across the UK.

"All electors should be free to cast their votes in the way they wish. It is not acceptable to explain or excuse electoral fraud on the basis of actual or perceived differences in cultural approaches to democratic participation."

"We have begun further work to identify relevant evidence in order to help address concerns about the vulnerability of some South Asian communities, specifically those with roots in parts of Pakistan or Bangladesh, to electoral fraud."

Voters should be forced to show ID before voting

The commission has also called for a change in the law by 2019 to make it mandatory for voters to show proof of identity at polling stations before voting.

However, it rejected calls to restrict postal voting and said such a move would prevent many innocent people from casting their vote.

But Electoral Commission chairwoman Jenny Watson said: "Proven cases of electoral fraud are rare and when it is committed, the perpetrators tend to be candidates or their supporters.

"Voters are the victims and sustained action is needed now to prevent fraud from taking place. Although the introduction of individual electoral registration this year will tighten up the registration system more can and should be done."

A Cabinet Office spokesman said: "The Government takes the issue of electoral fraud very seriously and we thank the Electoral Commission for their work on this issue. We will consider the recommendations in this report carefully and respond in due course."

http://news.sky.com/story/1191986/probe-into-south-asian-vote-riggi...

Comment by Paul Austin Murphy on January 2, 2014 at 12:42

Joe, I've been contacted by people about this case. I won't mention names on line; but you know them. They were sued by Fiyaz Mughal and their barrister did a good job. They have suggested that Tim Burton use the same lawyer. Liberty GB hasn't responded yet.

Comment by Joe on January 2, 2014 at 10:29

Incidentally,  from that list of books on taqiyya, Patrick Sookhdeo is a christian minister with two PhDs, and I believe that Caroline Cox may be Baroness Cox (the book on Amazon and on the Civitas website don't allow one to work out if its the same person).  These people would make excellent witnesses in a trial.

Comment by Joe on January 2, 2014 at 10:22

I've placed some references up for the veracity of the doctrine of taqiyya.

http://4freedoms.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/taqiyya-is-a-g...


Comment by Joe on January 2, 2014 at 10:14

Fiyaz Mughal may be having to take this route because of the new libel laws (which came into effect yesterday). 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25551640

Justice minister Shailesh Vara said: "As a result of these new laws, anyone expressing views and engaging in public debate can do so in the knowledge that the law offers them stronger protection against unjust and unfair threats of legal action."


Now people need to show that a defamation caused them "serious harm".

PAM if you can, please pass on this reference to the man being prosecuted.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Al-Taqiyya-Fi-Al-Islam-Sami-Makarem/dp/1904850022

It shows that Taqiyya is indeed a part of islamic doctrine.  I have other references showing that not only Shia muslims endorse Taqiyya but also Sunni muslims.

Tim Burton may be able to get hold of a copy of that book (I know of one library which has it).

FM will hopefully find this action undermines him even further.  It would be great to have the veracity of taqiyya brought out in open court.

Comment by Paul Austin Murphy on January 2, 2014 at 8:01

FIYAZ MUGHAL IS TRYING TO END FREE SPEECH

The criticism of Pakistani council corruption = “racist”

The criticism of Islam = “racist”

The criticism of Muslims (as Muslims) = “racist”

The criticism of mass immigration = “racist”

The criticism of any aspect of a minority culture/behaviour = “racist”

The criticism of Muslim and African countries = “racist”

The criticism of the prophet Muhammad = “racist”

The criticism of Muslim sexual grooming = “racist”

The criticism of school visits to mosques/interfaith events = “racist”

The criticism of – or jokes about – black football players = “racist”

The criticism of Muslim drug-pushers = “racist”

The criticism of Roma criminality = “racist”

The criticism of Baroness Warsi = “racist”

The criticism of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) = “racist”

The criticism of 'Mo' Ansar = “racist”



…. and last, but not least, the latest crime:



THE CRITICISM OF FIYAZ MUGHAM = “RACIST”

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“... our doughty boys-in-blue as, hunched before flickering screens, they endlessly trawl Facebook and Twitter for the crime... the unforgivable crime of criticising Islam... Last week Liberty GB radio host, Tim Burton, was charged by West Midlands Police with racially aggravated harassment, after his post on Twitter described a prominent individual as "a mendacious grievance-mongering taqiyya-artist"... none other than Mr Fiyaz Mughal OBE, founder of the Tell Mama organisation, who in June 2013 was revealed as a deceiver by Telegraph journalist Andrew Gilligan... Tell Mama had its public funding discontinued.. did Tim Burton again in the following tweet: '… scumbag Fiyaz Mughal agrees to stop telling porkies if the British Government gives him his £214,000 back'… The government (whose dupes have given him wads of our cash) and the police (ever fearful of Muslim reaction), seek to stave off criticism of Mughal, and are now following his example and busily transforming every robust verbalisation (i.e. free speech) into a 'hate crime'.... Tell Mama has previously threatened numerous members of the public with libel actions for criticising it on Twitter. … 'they are just trying to shut down debate'....Tim Burton's trial is set for the afternoon of Tuesday 18th February 2014 at Birmingham Magistrates' Court....”

http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6218-...

Comment by Antony on January 2, 2014 at 7:44

Liberty GB radio host charged with hate crime ; http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6218-...

 

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
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