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Kuffarphobia via Free Speech Attack & Deceit

{This room should be split into two: one for Free Speech and the other for Civil Society. We hope to perform this re-organisation at a later date.}

Civil society has many benefits we take for granted, so these are being eroded by a process often called "soft jihad".  For example: 

  • loss of free speech, via increased legal or media censorship and speaker intimidation. The Islamic term for this is riddah
  • loss of equality in law, via special treatment for Muslims
  • loss of community policing, via  acceptance of self-regulating Islamic zones
  • loss of justice, via decadent judges and witness intimidation
  • loss of fair elections, via false voter registration and voter intimidation
  • loss of safe employment, via media directed vilification and employer intimidation (as performed e.g. by the Animal Rights movement)
  • costs and burden of security checks due to terrorism
  • burden of admin and security checks due to fraud by criminal communities
  • loss of a polite society, because some of the public are hostile and un-approachable, with hidden faces and threatening dress

Clearly Infiltration, Parasitism and Segregation also degrade Civil Society - however they are in 2 separate victim rooms.

Also, Crime and Terrorism cover the initial costs of the acts, but even if brought under control, the whole society is left with the administrative burden of extra security checks, as has happened with car insurance and aircraft journeys.

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Anyone curious as to why there aren't more Gay spokesmen to speak about Gay ethnic cleansing in Tower Hamlets, or Women to speak against FGM, need only look to this room for the reasons.

Self importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow man. Self importance requires that one spends most of one's life offended by someone or something - Carlos Castenada


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N.B. Nesriin (the poetess) has already closed her channel due to excessive trolling. The above video is from a mirror site.

Discussion Forum

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Free speech, free expression.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Alan Lake May 2, 2016. 2 Replies

Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.

Started by Philip Smeeton. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Apr 25, 2016. 1 Reply

Kuffarphobia via Hijacked Watchmen / NGOs

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 22, 2016. 8 Replies

Civil War

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Feb 16, 2016. 78 Replies

Language Tricks used by the Media

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Feb 14, 2016. 12 Replies

The Post-Dialogue World

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Nov 18, 2015. 1 Reply

Images of Mohammed - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Nov 7, 2015. 10 Replies

Dealing with Blasphemy - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 10, 2015. 1 Reply

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Comment by Philip Smeeton yesterday

It seems that we have to wipe every trace of humanity from our hearts if we are to survive. There is no humanity in Islam, which is why they are walking in unopposed and taking over. All of these limp ideas about equality and human rights have to go out of the window, We stand by helpless and witness rape, pillage and murder in our home towns. We have been completely emasculated by liberal principles and it has to end. A game only functions if everyone plays by the rules. We play by misguided, noble rules of fairness and compassion, but the other side does not. They have no rules other than kill and conquer. No respect for human rights and equality and contempt for us. In a life or death struggle there can be no rules, no restrictions, and only one winner. We are tribal and need a leader with the determination to protect us. We are warriors with our hands tied.

We give rights to people that have no claim to them, and deluded ourselves out of existence.

Conflict is human nature. You may have a dream about universal unity, but in the real world you have to pick a side, and join the fight.

Comment by Antony yesterday

I don't know what this chap said, I probably would.nt have agreed with him, but that is it - it is just WORDS - not worth jailing someone for 4 years for, in fact not even worth a police investigation - shame they did not spend their time on catching muslim & yardie rape gangs.

Comment by Alan Lake on Thursday

I feel so much safer now that the counter-terror unit has got that man behind bars.  In fact, I think I'll enjoy a gentle stroll across Westminster Bridge and gaze upon the House of Commons, that bastion of democracy, that is so carefully protecting me.

Also, isn't the North East Counter Terror Unit's motto impressive: "Run, Hide, Tell".  We should have had that when the Nazis were rampaging across Europe.  If we'd just run, hidden and told each other about it, I'm sure it would have worked out fine!

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Wednesday

The extreme-right-wing crush they can, there are so few of them. I do not agree that there is or ever has been a global zionist conspiracy. But those that believe so and those that believe in UFOs have a right to say so, a human right, a right under the protection of the right to have an opinion and believe things that others do not. What no one has the right to is to physically harm another human being because of their beliefs, and the physical harming of another human being is already covered by common criminal law. I do not know what this man has said but should not those that violently demonstrate on the streets be given a stricter punishment than someone that for instance denies the Holocaust. A Holocaust denier has to be confronted with facts not imprisoned. If any thing is holy in a democracy it is the right to have an opinion even if that opinion is wrong. If someone punches you in the face for no particular reason he should be punished but the punishment should be the same if he punches you in the face for being white, the assault is the crime not the hate. Hate-crime laws are unnecessary and unreasonable. I know some muslims hate me but that in itself is not a crime. If they intend to harm me or actually do, there is the crime.

Comment by Antony on Tuesday
Comment by Antony on March 17, 2017 at 17:03

BBC Asian network ask what is the right way to ban blasphemy ; https://twitter.com/bbcasiannetwork/status/842672388223483904

Comment by Antony on March 13, 2017 at 16:25

BBC banned Johnny Rotten in 1978 for talking about Jimmy Saville ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKnWAIgpLY&feature=em-share_vi...

Comment by Alan Lake on March 11, 2017 at 11:22
Oh no. Now just watch how long it takes for Muslims to demand a similar legelised protection from criticism.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 9, 2017 at 11:04

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/12/antisemitism-defini...

“Britain among first countries to use new definition that includes over-sweeping condemnation of Israel”.

Most Muslim countries over-sweepingly condemn Israel.

“The guidance says it could be considered antisemitic to accuse Jews of being more loyal to Israel or their religion than to their own nations, or to say the existence of Israel is intrinsically racist”.

I accuse rightfully Muslims of being more loyal to Islam and other Muslims than to the nation that they reside in or have citizenship status in, must I go to prison for this belief?

If I was a Jew and push comes to shove, I would choose loyalty to my fellow Jews and to Israel, but as long as I and other Jews and Israel are not condemned or attacked I would remain loyal to and follow the laws of the country I reside in.

I do not hate Jews and I support Israel, but I would be prosecuted under this law for conducting a reasoned analysis of Jewishness and the State of Israel.

As Jew is both a racial and religious description, it is only reasonable to suggest that there is an element of racism involved in the State of Israel.

They are making speaking the truth illegal.

I think that England should be predominantly populated by people of English decent and that Japan should remain predominantly populated by people of Japanese descent. Should I be punished and imprisoned for my opinion, when I have not committed a crime of violence as a result of my views? And even then I should be prosecuted for my violent crime and not for being a nationalist.

They keep inventing new terms and re-defining words to persecute people with - “over-sweeping”- what is that?

Overt-antisemitism?

It is not illegal to hate Jews or to hate Israel, it is a Human Right to hate things or people, as long as you do not break common law and employ violence in doing so. The act of hating something or someone cannot be illegal.

You cannot make racism illegal, only racist violence can be illegal.

“It means there will be one definition of antisemitism – in essence, language or behaviour that displays hatred towards Jews because they are Jews – and anyone guilty of that will be called out on it.” May said.

Which also means that to hate Muslims will be a punishable offense. I hate Islam, is that a punishable offense?

Comment by Antony on March 8, 2017 at 15:20

New anti semitism legislation - though I still can't see how it would be applicable in the case below, despite it's wide ranging nature ; https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/12/antisemitism-defini...

 

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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