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It takes a nation to protect the nation

They will have a harder time dealing with their home-grown extremists.  These lot come from Morocco, Mali, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia and Turkey.  If islam is so great, why did they leave their countries to go and leach off the French?

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/02/world/europe/france-muslim-deport...


France begins Muslim deportations after shootings

By the CNN Wire Staff
April 2, 2012

The French Interior Ministry announced Monday it has deported two Muslims and plans to expel three more in a crackdown after the killing of seven people by a suspected Islamic extremist.

A statement by Interior Minister Claude Gueant said the moves were part of "an acceleration of the deportation procedures of foreign Islamic radicals."

An Islamic militant from Algeria who was involved in 1994 attacks in Marrakech, Morocco, was sent to his home country Monday, the statement said. In addition, a Malian imam was returned to his home country for sermons that promoted anti-Semitism and rejection of the West, it said.

Deportation proceedings also have started or are planned against three others: an imam of Saudi nationality, a militant Islamist from Tunisia and an imam from Turkey, the statement said.


French gunman buried in Toulouse


Weapons 'easily' available in France

It cited provisions in the law governing aliens and political asylum, saying the statutes "allow this type of decision with regards the 'urgent need for state security or public safety' or 'conduct likely to harm the fundamental interests of the state.' "

According to the statement, other expulsions will occur soon.

Last week, French President Nicolas Sarkozy told French radio that 19 people had been arrested in a series of police raids on suspected Islamists.

The raids came a week after gunman Mohammed Merah, who killed seven people, was shot dead after a long siege in the southwestern city of Toulouse.

Sarkozy, who is running for re-election, said the raids were intended to "deny the entry of certain people to France" who did not share the country's values.

"It's not just linked to Toulouse. It's all over the country. It's in connection with a form of radical Islam, and it's in agreement with the law," he said.

Sarkozy suggested then that more raids would follow, saying, "There will be other operations that will continue and that will allow us to expel from our national territory a certain number of people who have no reason to be here."

Merah was blamed for the killings of three French paratroopers, a rabbi and three Jewish children ages 4, 5 and 7. Two other people were seriously wounded in the shootings.

Merah told police he had attended an al Qaeda training camp while visiting Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to Paris prosecutor Francois Molins.

But his uncle, Jamal Azizi, denied statements by French authorities that Merah was an al Qaeda sympathizer and that he had traveled to Afghanistan or Pakistan to train to use arms.

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'They will have a harder time dealing with their home-grown extremists.'

How true.  ‘Home-grown extremists’ are grown from the soil of traditional, orthodox, rooted-in-the texts, history and teachings of Islam, which transcends national borders – and is accessible to anyone who can read, think and yearn to believe. E.g. Roshonara Choudhry

Joe,

Here is the answer to our question.  We have forgotten about the Government Prevent Strategy.  From a longer article about foreign and domestic terrorism…

‘A Government spokeswoman said: 'We are tackling the threat of home-grown terrorism with our new Prevent strategy, which is challenging extremist ideology and tackling the radicalisation of vulnerable people.’


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124899/Al-Qaedas-new-front...

The Prevent Strategy

The Prevent strategy 2011

The Prevent strategy has now been re-focused. It is guided by a number of key principles:

First, Prevent will remain an integral part of the government’s counter-terrorism strategy, CONTEST.

Second, Prevent will address all forms of terrorism, including the extreme right wing. [emphasis added]
However, it is clear that Prevent work must be targeted against those forms of terrorism that pose the greatest risk to our national security. Currently, the greatest threat comes from Al Qa’ida, its affiliates and like-minded groups.

Third, Prevent will tackle non-violent extremism where it creates an environment conducive to terrorism and popularises ideas that are espoused by terrorist groups. 

Fourth, Prevent will make a clearer distinction between our counter-terrorist work and our integration strategy. Prevent depends on the success of that strategy. But the two cannot be confused or merged together. Failure to appreciate the distinction risks securitising integration and reducing the chances of our success. 

Fifth, the new Prevent must do much better in evaluating and monitoring progress against a common set of objectives. Money has been wasted. That must stop.

Finally, public money will not be provided to extremist organisations who do not support the values of democracy, human rights, the rule of law and mutual respect and tolerance of different faith groups.

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In 2010 Douglass Murray described it as ‘a cash cow which any enterprising Muslim group could tap into.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7540456/...

Right-wing... blah, blah.... far-right....yada, yada...  Doesn't it make you want to barf?

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. threat is from islamic extremism.  The word map I did of counterextremism.org shows that in truth, they know this is windows dressing (however much it damages those brave individuals who try to shout "you aren't doing enough").

http://4freedoms.ning.com/xn/detail/3766518:Comment:98267

Interestingly, given the TE-SAT reports show that about 90% of all terrorist incidents in europe are left-wing, that doesn't seem to even impinge on the counterextremism.org website.  Of course, the scale and audacity of the muslim terrorist attempts are often aimed at far bigger casualties and with far grander media impact.

But we should be challenging organisations like counterextremism.org about their massive blindspot when it comes to left-wing extremism.

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Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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