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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Two recent stories make me pose this question.  The stories are:

Islamic radical shot dead by anti-terrorism police in France after ...

And

France Seeks to Reclaim 'No-Go' Zones

From the first story:

‘It was part of a nationwide counter-terrorist operation aimed at capturing the gang responsible for planting a low explosive device in a kosher food shop in the northern Paris suburb of Sarcelles on September 19th.

‘A judicial source in the French capital said all the men targeted today were thought to be members of a secretive Salafist group.’

From the second story:

‘The French government has announced a plan to boost policing in 15 of the most crime-ridden parts of France in an effort to reassert state control over the country's so-called "no-go" zones: Muslim-dominated neighborhoods that are largely off limits to non-Muslims.’

H/T to Miche

The explicit recognition of the Islamically inspired reaction to this crime tsunami is a welcome development on the part of the State security forces.  They are not just talking about run-of-the-mill gangs and criminals but of people who follow Mohammed, are inspired by his ‘perfect’ example, and take instructions from the Qur'an ‘to strike fear in the hearts of non-Muslims.’ Qur'an 8:12

So it seems that there is a growing recognition on the part of the security forces that they are up against a different type of enemy.  They should look to their history for guidance, e.g. Tours.  The pushers of Sharia-land in France are up against a force that appears to call them by their right name.  That is good news for all of us. 

However, for the French State to truly reclaim control over its own territory from the enemies within, it will require more resolve than they have shown so far.  I hope I am wrong but I fear there will be compromise, accommodation and more ‘sensitivity training.’  But they have started a process now which they must win.  Anything short of complete victory and the destruction of the no-go zones in their own country will mean surrender to the forces of jihad.

On another point: The Muslim vote was crucial in voting in the French President Hollande who was fully supportive of the latest police actions.  How this will work out in the larger political scene and in the long term I cannot venture to guess. 

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translation of original speech ; http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-hour-is-grave.html

Antony a dit :

20 French Generals Sign Letter Condemning Oppression of Yellow Vests; Warn of Coming Race War ; https://national-justice.com/20-french-generals-sign-letter-condemn...

As Cardinal Mercier, Primate of Belgium, said: "When prudence is everywhere, courage is nowhere"

Very nice. And this:

We can see that it is no longer time to procrastinate, otherwise tomorrow civil war will put an end to this growing chaos, and the dead, for which you will be responsible, will be counted in thousands.

But as many comments say, the dead will be in millions, not thousands. Think of the partition of India and Pakistan; it's not rocket science, and its not without precedent.

Despite the quislings of the Macron Government, and their efforts to demonise the Right, there is a very large minority of French people who have for several years been supporting Marine Le`Penn. If she were to ever get elected (and Macron didn't cheat like a Democrat ) the security forces of France would be right there with her.
Getting Her (Le`Penn) into the Palace is the difficult part. Although I'm sure the EU would collapse if that did happen.
Anyway, members of the armed forces ( or ex members) point out that all the Islam in France could bring about a civil war.
And that's the ace in the pack for the Elites. The threat of violence, because the Muslims have proved they will use Violence and die in the cause of Allah, the aging French population will step back, the Elites will ensure Le`Penn is beaten, and in the meantime another few years have past, more of the old France has died, and the replacement will continue. The Millions dying are the old. The Far to few French youth who are able are leaving, and the void belongs to the immigrants.
It doesn't look like many people are ready to die for their Country anymore. Not yet anyway. Unless maybe the old Generals can muster up an Army.
Maybe they could employ Sylvester Stallone and his Expendables.
Although I think of Yugoslavia..emmm
Yep, if trouble stated, we'd bomb ourselves into submission. Europe I don't think has the capability to fight a civil war. Nor does Britain, That's probably why the British are sending a Carrier group to the South China sea, so we can surrender. Better the Chinese have us than the Islamic nation. That's no choice at all.

On Gab I saw that France had PR until the 1990s. PR was removed and consequently the FN's share of MPs was destroyed.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v08/n01/r.w.-johnson/proportional-r...

2018 Macron said he was going to re-introduce PR. Why would that be?  Because Le Pen is clearly near taking over. So PR will be re-introduced to stop her.

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/french-government-plan...

The elite are utterly determined to stop the people from stopping the population replacement. If they hadn't made those changes in the 1990s the FN could already have prevented civil war.

For the record; google translation

Letter from the 20 Generals

Mister President,
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Government,
Ladies and Gentlemen,

The hour is serious, France is in peril, several mortal dangers threaten her. We who, even in retirement, remain soldiers of France, cannot, in the current circumstances, remain indifferent to the fate of our beautiful country.

Our tricolor flags are not just a piece of cloth, they symbolize the tradition, down through the ages, of those who, whatever their skin color or faith, have served France and given their lives for it. On these flags we find in gold letters the words "Honor and Fatherland". However, our honor today lies in the denunciation of the disintegration which strikes our homeland.

- Discrimination which, through a certain anti-racism, is displayed with a single goal: to create on our soil unease, even hatred between communities. Today some speak of racialism, indigenousism and decolonial theories, but through these terms it is racial war that these hateful and fanatic supporters want. They despise our country, its traditions, its culture, and want to see it dissolve by taking away its past and its history. Thus they attack, through statues, ancient military and civilian glories by analyzing words that are centuries old.

- Discrimination which, with Islamism and the suburban hordes, leads to the detachment of multiple plots of the nation to transform them into territories subject to dogmas contrary to our constitution. However, every Frenchman, whatever his belief or his non-belief, is at home everywhere in France; there cannot and must not exist any city or district where the laws of the Republic do not apply.

- Discrimination, because hatred takes precedence over brotherhood during demonstrations where the authorities use the police as proxy agents and scapegoats in the face of French people in yellow vests expressing their despair. This while undercover and hooded individuals ransack businesses and threaten these same law enforcement agencies. However, the latter only apply the directives, sometimes contradictory, given by you, the rulers.

The perils are mounting, the violence is increasing day by day. Who would have predicted ten years ago that a professor would one day be beheaded when he left college? However, we, servants of the Nation, who have always been ready to put our skin [give our lives] at the end of our engagement - as our military state demanded, cannot be passive spectators in the face of such actions.

It is therefore imperative that those who run our country find the courage to eradicate these dangers. To do this, it is often enough to apply existing laws without weakness. Remember that, like us, a large majority of our fellow citizens are overwhelmed by your dawdling and guilty silences.

As Cardinal Mercier, Primate of Belgium, said: "When prudence is everywhere, courage is nowhere. "So, ladies and gentlemen, enough procrastination, the hour is serious, the work is colossal; do not waste time and know that we are ready to support policies which will take into consideration the safeguard of the nation.

On the other hand, if nothing is done, laxity will continue to spread inexorably in society, ultimately causing an explosion and the intervention of our active comrades in a perilous mission of protecting our civilizational values ​​and safeguarding our compatriots on the national territory.

As we can see, there is no more time to procrastinate, otherwise, tomorrow the civil war will put an end to this growing chaos, and the deaths, for which you will bear the responsibility, will number in the thousands.

The signatory generals:

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A friend who lived in France for 13 years says that the vast majority of people there will be offended and shocked that these Generals have so blatantly entered the political arena.  I think the Government has already promised to prosecute current members of the Armed forces who signed the Letter.  When pressed for a number of supporters, my friend said perhaps 20% will actually agree with the letter.  The rest of the population will ignore it (particularly young people) or press for punishment of the all the signers, even the retired ones.  He was clear that the general population has no affection for the gendarmes or military personnel.  Their collaboration with the Nazis is still fresh in people's memories and family histories.

58% of French support the generals, 49% of French would support military take-over, with or without government approval.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/05/01/almost-half-of-french-w...

If you remove the immigrants, it's obvious the real French who support this is closer to 70%.

The author here hopes that elections next year will turn the Islamic tide. 

I've read these sort of articles for years. They are depressingly true but that is not enough to stop the rot and destruction. Such articles are necessary though as a spur to action.

Maybe, still yet, enough voters and politicians will act in time in France and throughout the West.


https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17843/france-election-immigration

Mr Zemmour, who has been likened to Donald Trump for his populist politics and divisive rhetoric, said he will take “destiny in his hands” as “now is not the time to reform France anymore, but to save it,” in a much-anticipated video message released on social media.

“I have therefore decided to run for president,” he told a Youtube audience which culminated at 50,000 viewers during a 15-minute speech glorifying the greatness of French culture and history.

“So that our children and our grandchildren do not experience barbarism. So that our daughters are not veiled and our sons are not submissive. [...] So that we make French people feel French again and not like foreigners on their own territory,” he added.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/30/eric-zemmour-anno...

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