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Comment by Antony on December 10, 2014 at 22:04
Comment by Joe on December 6, 2014 at 7:42

gay muslim Harley St. doctor kills himself because his family won't accept his homosexuality.

20 years ago I had a muslim boyfriend who was a doctor.  I put up with a couple of years of listening to him talk of suicide because of islamic hatred of being gay.  His family had converted to islam in a county where non-muslims were consigned to the lowest possible jobs.  After converting to islam, the theological government paid for him to go to private school in the UK, and for his medical studies.

I've known of muslim colleagues who I have happened to see in a gay bar, and even though they knew I was openly gay, they would run out of the bar so they would have the opportunity of later denying I had seen them there.  One even went so far as to go to the toilet, and try to climb out the toilet window.

After seeing the gay muslim group in the UK praise the Caliphate and destroy a gay pride event in East London, I really couldn't care less if gay muslims kill themselves.  They are of no use to the rest of us in the fight against the spread of islam.

Comment by Alan Lake on December 3, 2014 at 1:36

You can expect to see a lot more Muslims lying that they are gay after this ruling:

Comment by paul collings on November 8, 2014 at 21:17

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Where's the Muslims. Is Peter on his way to the pub to meet them?

Comment by Alan Lake on October 23, 2014 at 19:07
Comment by paul collings on October 6, 2014 at 17:15

 Are Gays not the flavour of the month? Normally Cameron/clegg/Ed can't shout loudly enough about gay rights. Can't be any votes needed this week. Or maybe the gay vote just isn't that important to them any more.

It seems that in just a few decades, gays have become out numbered by other groups of voters.  And people keep saying gays are taking over the world. Its the worst take over I've ever seen. 

If gays had adopted the halal and beheading route to world domination maybe the political leaders they'd supported for so long, wouldn't be so quick to desert them at the first sign of Sharia.  

Comment by Joe on October 6, 2014 at 14:24

Coming to the UK: British man jailed in Morocco for homosexual acts.

Since 61% to 70% of British muslims want gays treated as criminals (and the younger muslims are keener on this than their parents), within 40 years we will see the re-criminalisation of homosexuality in Britain. 

Comment by Antony on September 22, 2014 at 11:32

Indonesian islamist force cancellation of gay seminar ;

Comment by Antony on September 14, 2014 at 17:08
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Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere.
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any party

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