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Gay    Victims

We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Latest Activity: Aug 19

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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Nov 2, 2014. 8 Replies

The Complicity of the Gay Media

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 19, 2014. 6 Replies

Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Dec 21, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Antony on August 19, 2015 at 9:14
Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 2, 2015 at 12:44

Gay people are well aware of what Muslims do to homosexuals, notably ISIS. We are all in this together, against a common enemy that wants to take away every freedom.

Comment by Alan Lake on July 2, 2015 at 0:58

CNN spots ‘ISIS flag’ at London LGBT march – featuring dildos & anal plugs

http://rt.com/uk/270211-isis-flag-london-pride/

Comment by Alan Lake on June 24, 2015 at 2:17

I didn't realise that Peter Tatchell was such a slippery individual:

During the election debate, Nigel Farage scapegoated non-British people with HIV, some of whom are LGBT.

Yes, and some of whom are football players: therefore he hates football. What a bastard! QED.

His manifesto failed to mention HIV, let alone pledge to reverse the cuts in HIV funding.

He also failed to mention black swans and dark matter, therefore he clearly doesn't believe in either of them!  As for reversing cuts in HIV funding, what a bastard!  HIV funding should be massively increased, even while we are cutting back on the NHS budget. And anyone who disagrees will get No Platform!

He was the only UK-wide party leader to snub and insult the LGBT community by refusing to participate in an election Q & A with Pink News readers.

Finally, an honest point.  Why the hell Farage didn't participate, I do not know.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/04/29/qa-david-cameron-pledges-to-en...

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/04/27/ed-miliband-backs-humanist-wed...

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/01/pinknews-qa-natalie-bennett-on...

Comment by Antony on June 23, 2015 at 12:29
Comment by Antony on May 4, 2015 at 9:12

Teachers receiving death threats in muslim areas ; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11580163/Headtea...

Comment by Joe on May 2, 2015 at 16:26
Comment by paul collings on March 4, 2015 at 20:27

http://t.co/hRaPziYPQn

More gays being thrown from roof tops, But Experts say nothing to do with Islam.  

So why are Gays not being thrown from buildings across the world. Why do we not see women being stoned to death in Trafalgar Sq.

Why do these happen when Islam becomes the dominant force in a country?

So many question, too many experts!

Comment by Joe on February 23, 2015 at 18:28

Thanks Antony for keeping tabs on these subjects. I've given up. I take it as read that I will see gay rights in the west go into reverse in my life time.  Gays will go into hiding, relying on Grindr and Gaydar and Facebook for their secret lives of vice, out of the sight of the sharia police for a few more decades.

Comment by Antony on February 23, 2015 at 16:43

ISIS threaten to throw gays off leaning Tower of 'Pizza' ; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963229/ISIS-vow-Rome-throw...

 

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Expenditure
The government can spend money in any way it wants  - except one where the debt burden passes across generations (20 years)
4. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)

An additional Freedom from Religion may be deduced from equal application of the law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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