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It takes a nation to protect the nation


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We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Nov 2, 2014. 8 Replies

The Complicity of the Gay Media

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 19, 2014. 6 Replies

Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Dec 21, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Joe on January 20, 2015 at 0:04

The Iranians approve of "sex change surgery".
Anything of which the Iranians approve is something we should oppose.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 19, 2015 at 18:05

British Army’s first transgender officer plea: don’t ‘sensationalize’ her story

Comment by Alan Lake on January 19, 2015 at 18:04
Comment by Alan Lake on January 19, 2015 at 9:21

Author's Note: This post does not condemn Islam or assign collective blame to all Muslims for the actions of a savage minority.

Anthony, don't expect that blogger to be joining us in the fight anytime soon!

Comment by Antony on January 19, 2015 at 8:18

Something for Peter Tatchell to hold a demo about ;

Comment by Antony on December 10, 2014 at 22:04
Comment by Joe on December 6, 2014 at 7:42

gay muslim Harley St. doctor kills himself because his family won't accept his homosexuality.

20 years ago I had a muslim boyfriend who was a doctor.  I put up with a couple of years of listening to him talk of suicide because of islamic hatred of being gay.  His family had converted to islam in a county where non-muslims were consigned to the lowest possible jobs.  After converting to islam, the theological government paid for him to go to private school in the UK, and for his medical studies.

I've known of muslim colleagues who I have happened to see in a gay bar, and even though they knew I was openly gay, they would run out of the bar so they would have the opportunity of later denying I had seen them there.  One even went so far as to go to the toilet, and try to climb out the toilet window.

After seeing the gay muslim group in the UK praise the Caliphate and destroy a gay pride event in East London, I really couldn't care less if gay muslims kill themselves.  They are of no use to the rest of us in the fight against the spread of islam.

Comment by Alan Lake on December 3, 2014 at 1:36

You can expect to see a lot more Muslims lying that they are gay after this ruling:

Comment by paul collings on November 8, 2014 at 21:17

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Where's the Muslims. Is Peter on his way to the pub to meet them?

Comment by Alan Lake on October 23, 2014 at 19:07

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any party

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