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We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Dec 21, 2012. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

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Comment by Antony on Sunday
Comment by Antony on September 3, 2014 at 11:06
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Comment by Paul Austin Murphy on July 10, 2014 at 16:19

Why did the EDL choose Bristol's Gay Pride Day for a demo? Or was it a coincidence?

Comment by Antony on June 24, 2014 at 18:12
Comment by Paul Austin Murphy on June 3, 2014 at 16:20

A video on UAF's hypocrisy over gay issues:

'Homophobic Back-stabbers'

Comment by Antony on May 11, 2014 at 8:47
Comment by Antony on May 5, 2014 at 10:44
Comment by Joe on April 18, 2014 at 18:03

Meanwhile, if a gay bar refused entry to someone (man? woman?) in a burka, they'd be prosecuted for racial/religious discrimination.

Comment by paul collings on April 18, 2014 at 17:14

In Cleveland USA, Muslim cab drivers are refusing to drive because of the gay games adverts on them.

Another clear indication of Islam's feelings towards the gay community. This isn't in Afghanistan or Pakistan this is in America.

Islam! the religion of peace? of tolerance, diversity.  This is the religion that will slaughter the very same gay people who stand with them.

Turkey builds a prison for gays only.     This is a country that could join the EU.  


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

The two current threats to Secular Democracy (SD) of Islam and Debt arise due to fundamental vulnerabilities in its constitution. Hence the 4 Freedoms definitions give 4 corrections to that ideology.

We have little expectation of those corrections being implemented, because SD rests on an even more fundamental fallacy, that:
The 'open marketplace' of ideas driven by rational self interest will lead to ideological well being - in the same way that Adam Smith's free market of prices leads to economic well being.

But ideological faction is not comparable with economic grouping, because the rational self interest of ideological actors performs differently to that of economic actors. Consequently, the open society of SD, will succumb gradually to any strong, unified gang, of which, Islam is one example.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them, so 4F gives only a sample view of how far it has advanced and by what methods. We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and will force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These freedoms protect against four vulnerabilities in standard definitions of democracy.
1. Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of free speech and democracy
2. Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed -except one advocating the end of free speech and democracy
3. Freedom from Religious Intrusion
Religion & culture operate freely in the private sphere, but are regulated by law in the public sphere
4. Freedom from Debt
The electorate is not allowed to live off debt and dump it on the next generation

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