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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Gay Victims of Kuffarphobia


Gay Victims of Kuffarphobia

We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 17, 2018. 4 Replies

The Complicity of the Gay Media

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Jan 19, 2017. 10 Replies

The new Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Nov 2, 2014. 8 Replies

Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

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Comment by Antony on July 16, 2017 at 11:14
Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 9, 2017 at 17:18

Demanding respect when they do not respect others is the muslim way. As long as they remain muslim they will be incapable of understanding freedom, and their version of truth will not correspond to our perception of truth.

You can only ask a reasonable person to sit down and think long and hard about defining freedom or truth.

Gay rights are the same as any other reasonable minority's rights. Gays do not want to take away the rights of others.

But you cannot give rights to muslims because they want to take away the rights of others.

Tolerance can only be extended to a minority by the majority when that minority is not a serious threat to the majority. 

It is inadvisable to attempt to discuss truth, tolerance or love with anyone coming at you with a big knife intent on killing you.

Comment by Antony on May 9, 2017 at 12:42

London muslims blame jews for big gay iftar ;

Comment by Alan Lake on January 20, 2017 at 15:10
Comment by Alan Lake on January 15, 2017 at 10:10
I wonder if Londoners now being less gay Tolerant, is anything to do with native British now being a minority here? But how could that be? We all know that multiculturalism is the way to a tolerant and peaceful society, dont we :-)
Comment by Antony on January 14, 2017 at 19:05
Comment by Antony on January 12, 2017 at 8:26
Comment by Alan Lake on January 10, 2017 at 21:11
I don't understand again. They keep telling us that Muslims are fully integrated, tolerant and peaceful members of British society, yet those names sound Muslim. How can this be?
Comment by Antony on January 10, 2017 at 14:43
Comment by Antony on November 11, 2016 at 15:12

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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