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Gay Victims of Kuffarphobia

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Gay Victims of Kuffarphobia

We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

Search Site: http://4freedoms.ning.com/main/search/search?q=Zgay
Members: 17
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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Nov 2, 2014. 8 Replies

Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Dec 21, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 9, 2017 at 17:18

Demanding respect when they do not respect others is the muslim way. As long as they remain muslim they will be incapable of understanding freedom, and their version of truth will not correspond to our perception of truth.

You can only ask a reasonable person to sit down and think long and hard about defining freedom or truth.

Gay rights are the same as any other reasonable minority's rights. Gays do not want to take away the rights of others.

But you cannot give rights to muslims because they want to take away the rights of others.

Tolerance can only be extended to a minority by the majority when that minority is not a serious threat to the majority. 

It is inadvisable to attempt to discuss truth, tolerance or love with anyone coming at you with a big knife intent on killing you.

Comment by Antony on May 9, 2017 at 12:42

London muslims blame jews for big gay iftar ; https://clarionproject.org/london-muslims-blame-jews-for-big-gay-if...

Comment by Alan Lake on January 20, 2017 at 15:10
Comment by Alan Lake on January 15, 2017 at 10:10
I wonder if Londoners now being less gay Tolerant, is anything to do with native British now being a minority here? But how could that be? We all know that multiculturalism is the way to a tolerant and peaceful society, dont we :-)
Comment by Antony on January 14, 2017 at 19:05
Comment by Antony on January 12, 2017 at 8:26
Comment by Alan Lake on January 10, 2017 at 21:11
I don't understand again. They keep telling us that Muslims are fully integrated, tolerant and peaceful members of British society, yet those names sound Muslim. How can this be?
Comment by Antony on January 10, 2017 at 14:43
Comment by Antony on November 11, 2016 at 15:12
Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 14, 2016 at 10:51

The king here in norway just came out and held a multiculti speech where he defended gay rights and at the same time tolerance for our new countrymen, and welcomed syrian refugees. The press called it a masterpiece. Most of the new-norwegians are muslims and they do not generally recognise gay-rights. But the king, a very stupid fellow, and his courtiers can see no connection.

I would normally say that people that go around calling other people stupid all of the time are usually stupid themselves. In spite of this I am bound to say that I find multiculturalists abysmally stupid and incapable of understanding the reality of the consequences of their naive and compassionate beliefs.

I do not know what to call Sjøberg and his "politicians and serious thinkers", stupid doesn't quite cover it. He is right though "we cannot just continue with our culture" if we want peace we have to submit to Islam. They cannot think the thought or see that the real solution is to send the "several hundred thousand muslims" away.

The ruthless hunter-farmers in Norway are intent on keeping the wolf extinct in Norway, so as to protect their sheep. Every wolf that wanders over the border from Russia or Sweden is hunted down and shot. Not that I do not like wolves and think they should be protected, but I think there is somehow a lesson to be learned here. 

 

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Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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