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We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Comment by Antony on June 16, 2016 at 5:54
Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 15, 2016 at 17:48

It is amazing how the press are falling over themselves in their eagerness to excuse Islam, protect and defend muslims and acquit them.

The line is that the Orlando terrorist was merely a violently conflicted homosexual that could not accept his sexuality.

 Now this man was also checking out disney-world as a target, I doubt that he was really gay, I think he was just doing a thorough job in selecting his target and building up motivation. He hated gays with a passion, as ISIS does.

He was a muslim and swore his allegiance to a terrorist organization, carrying out these murders in the name of Islam.

It was the sort of isolated-terrorist deed that Al-Qaeda and ISIS has been asking muslims everywhere to carry out. There is no direct link to other terrorists, the connection is to the ideology of Islam, the terror and hate that it teaches and the commands that islamist terrorists issue.

Homosexuality is not to blame, Islam is to blame.

There will be more lone-wolf and terrorist cell attacks on us.

They have for a long time now been asking muslims in Western countries to enter normal family homes and cut the throats of every family member, in the name of Allah.

Comment by Alan Lake on June 15, 2016 at 15:33

Look how the weak kuffar respond to the latest Islamic cull of their most despised members.  And yes, it is a cull, since "they are like cattle" and are "the lowest of creatures".

Pulse owner promises to reopen club: ‘We will not let hate win’

This is just like Obama who refuses to use the words Islamic and Terror in the same sentence.  So we have a war on 'terror', whatever that is, some mythical force that has arisen from the underworld, and we must use all our powers of white magic to combat it.  But heaven forbid that there should be some war on the warlike ideology of Islam, or on violent Muslim terrorists, or the orthodox Islam ideology of the Islamic State.

In the same way, the Pulse club owner says "we will not let hate win" ,but dare not even say "we will not let Islamic terror" win.  She is not only afraid of Muslim terrorists, but is even afraid of being labelled 'Islamophobic' by the quisling army of liberals and SJWs.  This very statement itself reveals the cowardice and ineffectiveness of her kuffar response.

Cameron is no better, criticising the attack as one of homophobic hatred.  No connection to kuffarophobia then?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 15, 2016 at 12:53

The muslims are really messed up morally and sexually. They murder homosexuals and adulterous women but consider it alright to fuck little boys and girls, and to rape any woman and own sex-slaves.

In every case they are in opposition to Western values; freedom, choice, morality, human rights and democracy.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 15, 2016 at 12:33

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx

Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" - An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the "rain of stones" on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people's destruction. (Inexplicably, the story is also repeated in suras 15:74, 27:58 and 29:40).

Bukhari (72:774) - "The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, 'Turn them out of your houses .' The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman." 

al-Tirmidhi, Sunan 1:152 - [Muhammad said] "Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver.

The People Of Lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_in_Islam

Comment by paul collings on June 15, 2016 at 11:49

https://t.co/8BKm9E7w50

 Douglas Murray.

Comment by paul collings on June 15, 2016 at 11:06

https://t.co/TBoFhRTEP9

A lecture in Melbourn Australia on Islams view of Homosexuality. Of course no one will believe a words of it.

Comment by Antony on June 8, 2016 at 7:06

Luton police commissioner sides with muslims against gay sauna ; http://freethinker.co.uk/2016/06/07/police-commissioner-sides-with-...

Comment by Antony on May 17, 2016 at 12:00
Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 16, 2016 at 11:38
 

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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