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It takes a nation to protect the nation


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We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

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The Complicity of the Gay Media

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Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

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Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

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Comment by Joe on February 21, 2014 at 11:27

Uganda's muslims four-square behind laws against gays.  Just like 70% of British muslims.

Comment by Antony on February 20, 2014 at 17:02

Gambia's muslim president to fight gays ;

Comment by Joe on February 17, 2014 at 16:22

These fraudsters should just be sacked, and never allowed to work in any responsible position again.

But they will probably end up becoming politicians, like Denis MacShane.  

Comment by Joe on February 17, 2014 at 12:32

Today I heard from a gay friend, who was out with a large group of lesbian and gay people at the weekend.  One of them (a major drinker and socialite) announced he was going to Dubai with his boyfriend.  To my friend's (pleasant) surprise, everyone around the table turned on the drinker, and warned him that it was stupid for anyone gay to go to Dubai, especially if they liked getting drunk.  They told him he shouldn't be supporting these horrible muslim countries with his tourism.

I don't think that 10 years ago that a group of a-political gays like that would have had any opinion on Dubai.  It shows that attitudes are changing, even amongst those with virtually no interest in politics or islam.


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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