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Kuffarphobia against Gays


Kuffarphobia against Gays

We work to protect Gay people from the neo-fascists of the political left and the religious right.

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Forcing People to be Transsexual

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2014. 1 Reply

The new Egypt.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Nov 2, 2014. 8 Replies

The Complicity of the Gay Media

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 19, 2014. 6 Replies

Why Cameron Disowned Douglas Murray

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2012. 6 Replies

Douglas Murray: What are we to do about Islam

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Dec 21, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Antony on May 11, 2014 at 8:47
Comment by Antony on May 5, 2014 at 10:44
Comment by Joe on April 18, 2014 at 18:03

Meanwhile, if a gay bar refused entry to someone (man? woman?) in a burka, they'd be prosecuted for racial/religious discrimination.

Comment by paul collings on April 18, 2014 at 17:14

In Cleveland USA, Muslim cab drivers are refusing to drive because of the gay games adverts on them.

Another clear indication of Islam's feelings towards the gay community. This isn't in Afghanistan or Pakistan this is in America.

Islam! the religion of peace? of tolerance, diversity.  This is the religion that will slaughter the very same gay people who stand with them.

Turkey builds a prison for gays only.     This is a country that could join the EU.  

Comment by Joe on April 17, 2014 at 20:09

Turkey builds a prison for gays only.

Brunei to stone gays to death. My first muslim boyfriend was from Brunei - so glad I never went to visit his disgusting country.  He said his entire (chinese) family had converted to islam because if they did not they would only ever get menial jobs in Brunei.  What a shithole.

Gay rock n roll editor swoons for muslim terrorists.

13yo Kuwaiti boy raped by a man in a mosque.

Religious police arrest gay cop in Saudi Arabia.

Comment by Joe on April 17, 2014 at 0:05

What is happening, is the Chasm is making a mockery out of the concept of "human rights".  People like me who have spent our lives believing in the concept, want to see the human rights act destroyed.

Comment by Joe on April 17, 2014 at 0:03

He should be executed, never mind deported.

Comment by paul collings on April 16, 2014 at 21:58

Why does someone use being gay to stop being deported. And why do our courts allow it if Islam is not a danger to gay people.

Comment by paul collings on April 16, 2014 at 16:48

from Joes comment below.

To me this shows that despite the media fawning over the issue of gay marriage, deep down, they have no problem with people hating gays.

I think I have to agree with you Joe. There is something very fishy about the way gays are encouraged to put their selves forward and speak up for their rights by the media, and yet the media will never directly point out the dangers of being overly exposed to a group of people who hate the very idea of their existence.

I can't quite put into words what I'm thinking, but for most gays I would say don't be so trusting at this moment in time.

I still only see gay people moving out  of muslim areas, not into. And I certainly don't hear or see the media highlighting Muslim intolerance or Muslim attacks on gays.  They seem to be able to hate with impunity.

Comment by paul collings on April 16, 2014 at 16:21

Just like the life of Gay people will change everywhere because of the attitude of Islam.

There's no consistency in the public attitude of Gays to Islam despite Islam's hate for them.

If we want to live in a tolerant society, (which quite frankly I do) then we should not allow islam to exist in Britain until it totally denounces its unacceptable persecution of women, gays, Christians non Muslims, dogs, Animals in general, (that includes Camels and goats),  and it should be proven that their attitudes to people the Koran castigates and demonises  has changed before we ever allow Islam back into this country again.  

Only by the concerted efforts of everyone in Britain will the spread of islam be stopped. The gay community can see the treatment they themselves will receive from the treatment gays receive in all other Islamic nations.  Appeasing Islam will not work for gays. It works for Christians and Jews, people of the book, but gays? NO!   


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Expenditure
The government can spend money in any way it wants  - except one where the debt burden passes across generations (20 years)
4. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)

An additional Freedom from Religion may be deduced from equal application of the law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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