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Artist and Heritage Victims

The artistic and cultural heritage of a society are often targeted by Islam, as a possible threat to its mono-cultural dominance, as first shown by Mohammed's zeal for killing poets (13 in all). When world heritage cultural treasures are destroyed, we are all the victim.

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Members: 13
Latest Activity: on Saturday

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Discussion Forum

Italy. Chiesa della Misericordia

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake May 25. 2 Replies

Destruction of Libraries by Islam

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 23. 4 Replies

Persia: Ctesiphon

Started by shiva. Last reply by Philip Smeeton May 22. 1 Reply

Vasily Vasilyevich Vereshchagin,

Started by shiva. Last reply by Philip Smeeton May 11. 2 Replies

Britain: Lost Territory,

Started by shiva. Last reply by Kinana Apr 28. 9 Replies

Cyprus

Started by shiva. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Apr 17. 4 Replies

Passion for Freedom

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton May 1, 2014. 2 Replies

India.The Nawab no Like

Started by shiva. Last reply by shiva Jun 29, 2013. 3 Replies

Alleppo

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jun 20, 2013. 9 Replies

Music Verboten to Muslims in America

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jun 16, 2013. 1 Reply

Fascists target Canadian Muslim artist over bra

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Apr 15, 2013. 3 Replies

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Comment by paul collings on Saturday

Philip, don't worry, after  Islam has been in Europe for a hundred years all that will be left will be desert. They'll burn the lot down. 

Your right Joe, no one is going to listen to anyone who stands up for a law that doesn't allow millions of illegals access to Europe. The lowering of our standard of living has started. Not sure where the bottom is, but i suspect with in ten years or less we'll have an idea. 

Douglas Murray. He only made one mistake. He thought he'd be welcome in a political party with his views. He was at his best when he was doing his own thing at CSC. He wouldn,t have needed gov money if he'd stuck at it. 

He should have been the go too guy for the CJM, he should have been up there with Chris Hitchins, not side lined in a cushy little number working for HJS. 

Comment by paul collings on Saturday

Virtually every night on the news there are discussions of the housing shortage, with talk of our farmland/countryside being built over - yet no one ever mentions that immigrants and their offspring are a major cause of this, and where are all the eco warriors and hunt saboteurs when it comes to our countryside and its wildlife being destroyed by new building ?


Anthony, all those eco-warriors and saboteurs are in the same place as the womens rights groups and the international human rights groups are. On the side of the Offender, protecting the rights of Islam to Rape and kill. 

History has shown that no one likes a traitor. They will be first to slaughter. 

Comment by Joe on Saturday

Better to make Europe more comfortable for Islam. 

I refer my learned friend to this previous discussion:

"Conditions for Muslims in Europe must be made harder across the board"

The well-connected, erudite, moderate, reasonable man who made those remarks in 2006 was cast into oblivion by the Tories.

http://4freedoms.com/group/gays/forum/topics/why-cameron-disowned-d...

Ten years later, and I believe it was actually Douglas Murray who was baying at the moon.  Legalise FGM, and do it now.

Comment by Joe on Saturday

Every single one should be returned to their staging point in North Africa so they can either head back home or apply through the proper channels.

On Sky News last week, I caught a discussion on "the migrants" crossing the Med. The head of the Black Lawyers Assoc was on (if you hadn't been told he was black, only a racist of the 1st order would have said "he's not white, he's an octoroon or something").  Also some Lord was on (who before "ennoblement" had been a govt. security advisor).  A couple of other bleeding hearts was on (one an Eritrean, saying "they are coming here from my country, because there we have no rule of law", which told me that any country like that didn't deserve not to be colonised).

The Lord said (twice I believe) "the maritime law is clear, they should be taken back to the nation where the vessel is registered".  No-one took him up on this. The rest were all far too busy making sure the rule of law was undermined.  Eventually, our country will be dragged down to the level of Eritrea.  That will sort out the problem of these "migrants".

Comment by Philip Smeeton on Saturday

You're right there Paul, the Arabs are fed up with living in a parched desert, Europe has all of the greenery and flowing water that they dream of,. It's very like their vision of Paradise, nectar and fair maidens. And, as we have forgotten how to be men, everything here is ripe for the raping.

Comment by Lee on Saturday
Paul again couldn't of put it better myself personally I think the government know theirs only one way out of this know and they have to accomadate Islam as the only way to reverse the situation would ultimately end in ethnic cleansing it's got to the point you feel that their ignoring the problem and hoping it will go away !!!!!!!!!*
Comment by Philip Smeeton on Saturday

The world is better served if the existing nations remain intact and try to learn to co-operate with each other. As it is now, due to migration the richest nations are going to be incapacitated and impoverished by internal ethnic conflict. Only the nations that remain mono-ethnic will function, most notably China.

Comment by Antony on Saturday

Virtually every night on the news there are discussions of the housing shortage, with talk of our farmland/countryside being built over - yet no one ever mentions that immigrants and their offspring are a major cause of this, and where are all the eco warriors and hunt saboteurs when it comes to our countryside and its wildlife being destroyed by new building ?

Comment by paul collings on Saturday

 The language used is always confusing as well. 

The problem at Calais is Illegals. None of them should be there. They are illegal entries into Europe. They have made no attempt at seeking Asylum, they are only interested in getting in the UK. For what ever reason or motive they have.

Every single one should be returned to their staging point in North Africa so they can either head back home or apply through the proper channels.

We have no room in the UK for Illegals, nor do we have room for economic migrants, who are essentially illegals.  Although Genuine refugees deserve our help, we cannot allow our country to be destroyed by them. Safe zones could be set up within their own countries, no fly areas can be enforced and food delivered.

If the camps are infiltrated by Jihadis then action will have to be taken there. Not here. If our Countries collapse, then what will have been achieved.

Anyone who enters Europe without permission is an illegal. Whether they come here intentionally to cause harm is not the point anymore. Our system will fail under the weight of this influx.

The schools will fail, the hospitals will fail, the transport system will fail. The Sewerage and water systems will fail. And the welfare system is on the verge of failing.

If this Country was in such good shape, why all the cuts. Why are hospitals failing, why are schools full to over flow. And why is there such a shortage of housing.

I agree Lee. Its not Immigrants that are a problem. Immigrants normally apply to come and live her. Its the open door policy, and the refusal to remove whole sale illegals from our shores.

It is our liberal democratic system that is used against us. Our system demands that we die rather than  take the actions needed to save it.

We will never round and remove 10'000's of people. We'd never shut the channel tunnel for a year or two untill it could be secured. No one will stand up and save our way of life, because it would require we treat others harshly. While those we are afraid to turn away will not think twice before removing our heads.

I don't think we'll get too many lone wolf attacks as they're called. When we get a strike it will be on a much larger scale. The sort of attack that could cause economies to fail. Look at the damage a hand full of Jihadis can do. Imagine a hundred. Planes grounded, Trains at a stand still, roads jammed. Fear at an all time high. It would n't take much, Iraq and Afghanistan can absorb bomb blasts and death tolls in the dozens week after week. We wouldn't. Our Economies are very fragile.

The government have to pull the wool over the publics eyes. If Joe public knew what was happening the Government might have to do something that they have no intentions of doing, and that would expose them for the traitors they are.  

The future is going to be tough whatever happens. I say vote to leave the EU. I believe its the only way. I think other Countries within Europe would do the same. That doesn't mean fall out with our friends and allies, it means doing thing different. We need to learn from the mistakes we are making now, and make new treaties. Ones that allow us to protect ourselves and rid ourselves of the Marxist and  Islamic threats.

Having our Oil supply cut of will be the problem. Many serious discussions would have to take place. We will not have to kid ourselves it would be easy.

But it 'Aint  gonna happen. Most people are happy to allow the rape of their children for an easy life. If that wasn't the truth, then where were the parents and other family members of all those abused Children when EDL were demonstarting in their towns. Giving them an opportunity to come out and make their voices heard.

Everyones too scared. People know that the Government will protect Islam.   

Comment by Lee on Saturday
So true you only have to take a look at Kent and these immigrants getting through personally it's not immigrants however annoying the problem maybe it's jihadist getting through in the guise of an immigrant to either meet up with a cell once in the UK or just a lone wolf waiting to make a random attack
Either way the government has not once said it's a terrorist threat they have made it clear it a an immigrant threat yet pulling the wool over the publics eyes
 
 
 

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So 4F has categorised a subset of its depredations in a way that allows principal information to be retrieved for argument.  

We need to capture this information because it is slowly being removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Expenditure
The government can spend money in any way it wants  - except one where the debt burden passes across generations (20 years)
4. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)

An additional Freedom from Religion may be deduced from equal application of the law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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