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Hindu Victims of Kuffarphobia


Hindu Victims of Kuffarphobia

भारतीय और कश्मीरी हिंदुओं के लिए, इस्लामी कट्टरपंथियों से हिंसा और उत्पीड़न पीड़ित

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Muslim Atrocities in India 2003

Started by shiva. Last reply by paul collings Jan 1, 2017. 1 Reply

Frederick Mackeson and a Muslim Assassin

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Keith Thomas Jul 30, 2016. 1 Reply

Jihad against Hindu Kashmirians

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Joe Oct 7, 2014. 3 Replies

Indian politicians facing criminal charges - BBC

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 17, 2013. 1 Reply

Indonesia Facing Ethnic Tension

Started by shiva. Last reply by shiva Nov 19, 2012. 3 Replies

Giving Water to a Thirsty Dog

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 9, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Antony on August 15, 2017 at 10:10
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 22, 2017 at 11:31

You would think India could get its house in order. Control population growth, stop honor killings and the abuse of women and children, and end poverty. But all their best want to do is move to the US and get rich. Shouldn’t they be helping their homeland?

“According to a government report in 2012, about 15,000 people are killed every year in train accidents.”

The government is clearly not behaving responsibly.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 5, 2016 at 12:23

Indian leaders have to come out and condemn the abuse of women in India. They are no better than muslims when it comes to this. Civilized countries treat women as equals.

Let's make it illegal for women to loiter on British streets, and see if the feminists react to that!

Comment by Alan Lake on July 8, 2016 at 0:30

Eid prayers in Kashmir end up with clashes

Demonstrators took to the streets of Kashmir’s capital Srinagar on Wednesday, following Eid prayers. They were rallying for Kashmir independence from India, waving Pakistani flags and shouting separatist slogans. Police fired teargas to disperse the crowd, as some protesters threw stones and other projectiles at security forces.

Comment by Antony on February 23, 2016 at 8:20

Bangladeshi islamists slaughter Hindu priest ; - wonder if the Indian diaspora press over here will carry the story ?

Comment by Alan Lake on January 4, 2016 at 14:53
Comment by Antony on December 20, 2015 at 13:16
Comment by Alan Lake on November 14, 2015 at 6:09

I saw this on the BBC News App and thought you should see it:

The Indian maid who had her arm chopped off in Saudi Arabia" class="CToWUd"/>

BBC Newsnight speaks to a maid from India, Kasturi Munirathinam, who alleges her employer in Saudi Arabia chopped off her arm.
Comment by Alan Lake on October 2, 2015 at 1:29

India should be given more aid, to make up for the money lost in the space program:

India successfully launches its 1st space observatory

Comment by Alan Lake on July 28, 2015 at 13:09

This isn't about the 4 Freedoms, but its an interesting article about India.

Why Britain does not owe reparations to India -


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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