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"An Islamic regime must be serious in every field," explained Ayatollah Khomeini.

"There are no jokes in Islam.

"There is no humour in Islam.

"There is no fun in Islam."

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 29, 2017 at 15:21

Good one Tony.

We here, are all, that alien anthropologist, looking on humanity, and trying to understand all of it's folly, evil and genius.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 29, 2017 at 13:16

Wow, this so well expresses the hollow mythology of the modern West.

  • the idea that different cultures are just expressed by different sets of clothes. So a burqa or hate beard is just a different fashion statement, as opposed to an expression of a deep ideological position, and in fact in Islams case, one that is implacably opposed to you, and hates you.

  • the idea that you can swap cultures as easily as swapping clothes, somehow skipping the years of belief and training that have normally gone in prior to that

  • the idea that you would even want to be part of anyone else's culture. It reminds me of the reason that all citizens of the British Empire were given the right to settle in Britain when the empire was dissolved. The thinking at that time was that nobody from India or Africa would want to live apart from their own people. The issue was not reduced to a simple dumb equation of "which one gives me the best economic opportunities"
Comment by Tony Ashworth on October 29, 2017 at 10:57
We watched a tragedy unfold,
We did as we were told we bought and sold,
It was the greatest show on earth.

But then it was over.

We oooed and awed,
We drove our racing cars,
We ate our last few jars of caviar,
And somewhere out there in the stars
a keen eyed look out spied a flickering light...
Our last hurrah...
Our last hurrah.

And when they found our shadows,
Grouped round the tv sets,
They ran down every lead,
They repeated every test,
They checked out all the data on their list...
And then the alien anthropologist,
Admitted they were still perplexed,
But on eliminating every other reason
for our sad demise...
They logged the only explanation left,
This species has amused itself to death!

No tears to cry, no feelings left,
The species has amused itself to death.

Amused itself to death.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 29, 2017 at 9:58

Imagine yourself an alien from another galaxy, completely impartial, studying human behaviour. 

Comment by Antony on October 29, 2017 at 8:31

You're black reality - I'll stick under humour as I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry ! ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 25, 2017 at 15:44

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 23, 2017 at 17:34

Dumb and Dumber. 

Maxine Waters and Frederica Wilson,

Comment by Alan Lake on October 23, 2017 at 3:27
Comment by Alan Lake on October 19, 2017 at 3:30
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 12, 2017 at 15:26

Trump, master of the universe.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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