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Imperialism Victims

This room is for historical victims of Islamic Imperialism. It allows the reader to gain an understanding of the savage and unstoppable force of the Islamic war machine, which has been strangely forgiven in later centuries.

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The Spread of Islamic Imperialism: 632AD to the Present

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Edward Said about Near East Imperialism

Started by Indoeuropean Aug 9, 2014. 0 Replies

We Might be Muslim Today if.... - by Selwyn Duke

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Mar 22, 2013. 2 Replies

Impositions of Serfdom by Fascist Overlords

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 20, 2013. 1 Reply

5 million muslims demand Spanish nationality

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Feb 15, 2013. 1 Reply

UN: a tool for Fascist Imperialism

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Nov 24, 2012. 1 Reply

Battle of Vienna 1683

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Comment by Antony on February 23, 2015 at 8:56
Comment by Alan Lake on January 21, 2015 at 4:54
Comment by Joe on August 11, 2014 at 0:22

"As for Israel, I'm not sure how many more people that small strip of land can support. "

I saw a documentary last week which claimed that The Dead Sea level falls by 10 metres every decade.  The river Jordan is starting to look like the Grand Canyon, the water level has fallen so low (because Jordan is taking so much water).

Israel is the only place in the world I have visited which was more expensive than London.

Comment by paul collings on August 10, 2014 at 11:25

Alright Anthony,

I agree we should be deporting a lot of Muslims. And we should be ensuring more are not allowed in. If we look at what's happening over in Calais at the moment with warring immigrant gangs stabbing each other, its obvious we wouldn't be able to cope with the level of violence these immigrants would bring to our streets.

If people want peace in their homelands they are going  to have to stay and fight for it. Its no good turning our countries into war zones just show how wonderful we are.  And I wouldn't just deport Muslims by the way, I'd ban Islam. Its a Cult.

As for Israel, I'm not sure how many more people that small strip of land can support.  To take in tens of thousands of immigrants would mean expanding settlement building which brings more condemnation from the west and more violence from the Arab world.

There is not going to be a negotiated settlement in Palestine. Peace will only come with the death of Israel. If you can call that peace.

Comment by Antony on August 10, 2014 at 11:07

Paul, in my view we should only give refuge to Christians/Yazidis as last resort, we should train and arm them so they can fight the islamists, I actually think Israel would be a better country for them if they have to flee, as they could swell the Israeli army and increase the non- muslim demographic. If we do let them over here, an equivalent (or preferably greater) number of muslims should be deported to Iraq or Pakistan.

Comment by paul collings on August 10, 2014 at 10:51

Western Countries have been ignoring the slaughter of Christians across the Middle east and Africa for years. The only time the Media has taken any notice is when Christians fight back.

On the news all we see is western Christian leaders prostrating themselves in front of Islam. Now at the eleventh hour some religious  leaders have started to speak out.

The Arch bishop of Canterbury thinks we should give Asylum to Iraqi Christians. Just what we need tens of thousands of more people with an axe to grind on our shores. 

On the  streets of western cities yesterday people were calling for the occupation of Palestine to end. That means clearing all jews dead or alive out of the region. So, the people of the west are not against genocide, so why do we give a damn about how many people are killed anywhere.

The people of the west are calling for a Caliphate. Idiots doesn't even half way explain their stupidity. Attacks against Jews are increasing, those that can't flee will be forced to fight, and if we start taking in more refugees from the middle east and Africa  the violence on our streets will only in crease.

I also noticed the UK raised £4.5 million for Gaza yesterday in just 2 hours. That'll buy plenty of missiles. it proves that not only are we calling for the genocide of Israel, we are prepared to fund it as well.


Comment by Joe on August 10, 2014 at 10:02

2014, The Caliphate rounds up non-muslims and allows them to starve to death.

1915, The Caliphate rounds up non-muslims and allows them to starve to death.

Don't expect the media to note the comparison.

Comment by Antony on January 12, 2014 at 6:32

Imperialism through lumpen demographics -

Comment by Joe on December 16, 2013 at 14:11

Erdogan: Balkans belongs to us.

This is a Nato member? A prospective EU member?  The country which invaded Cyprus and has never left?

Recently Alan, Kinana and I had an encounter with a pleasant, highly-educated christian man on the fringes of our movement.  The man was flabberghasted (and disbelieving) when we told him that Erdogan was an islamic supremacist.  The only thing that seemed to convince this man that he was 100% wrong in his idea that Erdogan was a moderate and a secularist, was when I told him that Erdogan had been imprisoned in Turkey on crimes of relgiious hatred.

We are so fucked, when those who should be informed and have really good reasons to fear the rise of islam are so horribly misinformed.

Comment by Antony on March 25, 2013 at 11:10

Muslims start to colonise Bali - - they'll probably start demanding those beautiful Balinese ladies start covering up any day soon.


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Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Protecting (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)
4. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown not to favour any political party

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