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Imperialism Victims

This room is for historical victims of Islamic Imperialism. It allows the reader to gain an understanding of the savage and unstoppable force of the Islamic war machine, which has been strangely forgiven in later centuries.

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The Spread of Islamic Imperialism: 632AD to the Present

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We Might be Muslim Today if.... - by Selwyn Duke

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Impositions of Serfdom by Fascist Overlords

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5 million muslims demand Spanish nationality

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Comment by Alan Lake on April 17, 2015 at 2:31

All that racist genocide against the Sikhs, that the Fascist Left like so much, was in 1716.  

That is 100 years after Galileo showed that the earth was not the centre of the Universe.  It is 29 years after Newton produced his Principia Mathematica.  Only 60 years later, the United States was sufficiently developed for 13 states to declare independence from Britain.

Such primitive barbarism, is it any wonder the Muslim nations are all backward and economically unproductive (oil doesn't count)?

Comment by Alan Lake on April 17, 2015 at 2:24

How Banda The Brave Was Tortured To Death

Failing to get any clues after three months, the muslims prepared to put an end to their lives on Sunday, June 9, 1716. Banda’s cage was again hoisted on top of an elephant, and he was dressed in the mock attire of an emperor, with a colourful red pointed turban on his head. His four-year old son, Ajai Singh was placed in his lap.

The twenty chiefs marched behind the elephant and this procession then passed through the streets of Delhi, and headed for the mausoleum of the Emperor Bahadur Shah, near the Qutub Minar. On reaching the graveyard, the captives were again offered a choice of two alternatives: conversion to Islam or death. All chose death. They were tortured again before being being executed. Their heads were then impaled on spears and arranged in a circle around Banda who was now squatting on the ground. There were hundreds of spectators standing around watching this scene.

Banda Singh Bahadur was then given a short sword and ordered to kill his own son Ajai Singh. As he sat unperturbed, the executioner moved forward and plunged his sword into the little child cutting the body into two. Then pieces of flesh were cut from the body and thrown in Banda’s face. His liver was removed and thrust into Banda Singh’s mouth. The father sat through all this without any signs of emotion. His powers of endurance were to be tested still further.

But before that, Mohammed Amin Khan, who was standing near, spoke as follows: “From your manner so far you appear to be a man of virtue, who believes in God, and in doing good deeds. You are also very intelligent. Can you tell me why you are having to suffer all this here ?”

Banda’s reply was, “When the tyrants oppress their subjects to the limit, then God sends men like me on this earth to mete out punishment to them. But being human, we sometimes overstep the laws of justice, and for that we are made to pay whilst we are still here. God is not being unjust to me in any way.”

The executioner then stepped forward and thrust the point of his dagger into Banda’s right eye, pulling out the eyeball. He then pulled out the other eyeball. Banda sat through all this as still as a rock. His face gave no twitch of pain.

Then the executioner took his sword and slashed off Banda’s left foot, then both his arms. But Banda’s features were still calm as if he was at peace with his Creator. Finally they tore off his flesh with red-hot pincers, and there being nothing else left in their book of tortures, they cut his body up into a hundred pieces, and were satisfied.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 17, 2015 at 2:24

I just browsed through the Jihad Phase 3 Timeline and found this:

Banda Singh Bahadur

Prelude To Mass Murder

Then an imperial order was issued, commanding all government officials to kill Sikhs wherever they were to be found. The orders were strictly enforced. Sikhs and their sympathizers were slaughtered in large numbers.


In spite of all this, the Sikhs withstood the huge imperial forces for eight long months. But how long could this continue ? About eight thousand Sikhs had died. The remaining were reduced to mere skeletons. They had become too weak to wield any weapons. The imperial army entered the fortress. Baba Banda Singh and his famished followers were taken prisoner. Baba Banda Singh’s wife and his three year old son were among the prisoners.

From Gurdas Nangal Baba Banda Singh and his companions were taken to Lahore (editor: about 350 kilmetres away). There they were paraded in the streets. Then they were dispatched to Delhi (about 550 kilometres from Lahore). Baba Banda Singh was bound in chains in four places and put in an iron cage. The cage was placed on an elephant’s back. His companions, about two hundred in all, were also in chains. Zakriya Khan, son of the governor of Lahore, was in charge of these prisoners.

He thought that the number of prisoners was too small to present to the Emperor. Hence he caught every Sikh he could find in the villages on the way. The number of prisoners finally was seven hundred and forty.

Thousands more were killed. The heads of two thousand Sikhs were hung on spears and carried along with the prisoners. In addition to these, seven hundred cartloads of Sikhs’ heads also accompanied the horrible show. If one cart be supposed to contain fifty heads, 700 carts must have contained 35,000 heads !

Unparalleled Barbarity And Savagery

The cavalcade to the imperial capital was a grisly sight. Besides 740 prisoners in heavy chains, it comprised seven hundred cartloads of Sikh heads with another 200 stuck upon pikes.

On February 26, 1716, the procession neared Delhi, and Farukh Siyar ordered his Minister, Mohammed Amin Khan, to go out to receive them and to prepare them for a suitable display in the city. On February 29, the citizens of Delhi lined the streets, to get a good sight of the procession.


First came two-thousand soldiers, each holding a Sikh head impaled on his upright spear. Next followed the elephant carrying Banda in his iron cage, still with two Muslim guards guarding him, with their swords unsheathed. A gold-laced red turban was placed on his head, and to add further mockery to his plight, a brightly printed scarlet robe was slipped on his body (editor: they dressed him as a magician).

Then came 740 prisoners (500 had been collected on the way). These men were chained in pairs and thrown across the backs of camels. Their faces were blackened, and pointed sheepskin or paper caps were clapped on their heads. Behind this line came the Mughal Commanders, Abdus Samad Khan, his son Qamar-ud-Din Khan, and his son-in-law Zakaria Khan. Their men lined both sides of the streets.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 4, 2015 at 4:17

"Did the crusades fail?  If your answer to the question is 'yes', then you don't understand the crusades."

Comment by Antony on February 23, 2015 at 8:56
Comment by Alan Lake on January 21, 2015 at 4:54
Comment by Joe on August 11, 2014 at 0:22

"As for Israel, I'm not sure how many more people that small strip of land can support. "

I saw a documentary last week which claimed that The Dead Sea level falls by 10 metres every decade.  The river Jordan is starting to look like the Grand Canyon, the water level has fallen so low (because Jordan is taking so much water).

Israel is the only place in the world I have visited which was more expensive than London.

Comment by paul collings on August 10, 2014 at 11:25

Alright Anthony,

I agree we should be deporting a lot of Muslims. And we should be ensuring more are not allowed in. If we look at what's happening over in Calais at the moment with warring immigrant gangs stabbing each other, its obvious we wouldn't be able to cope with the level of violence these immigrants would bring to our streets.

If people want peace in their homelands they are going  to have to stay and fight for it. Its no good turning our countries into war zones just show how wonderful we are.  And I wouldn't just deport Muslims by the way, I'd ban Islam. Its a Cult.

As for Israel, I'm not sure how many more people that small strip of land can support.  To take in tens of thousands of immigrants would mean expanding settlement building which brings more condemnation from the west and more violence from the Arab world.

There is not going to be a negotiated settlement in Palestine. Peace will only come with the death of Israel. If you can call that peace.

Comment by Antony on August 10, 2014 at 11:07

Paul, in my view we should only give refuge to Christians/Yazidis as last resort, we should train and arm them so they can fight the islamists, I actually think Israel would be a better country for them if they have to flee, as they could swell the Israeli army and increase the non- muslim demographic. If we do let them over here, an equivalent (or preferably greater) number of muslims should be deported to Iraq or Pakistan.

Comment by paul collings on August 10, 2014 at 10:51

Western Countries have been ignoring the slaughter of Christians across the Middle east and Africa for years. The only time the Media has taken any notice is when Christians fight back.

On the news all we see is western Christian leaders prostrating themselves in front of Islam. Now at the eleventh hour some religious  leaders have started to speak out.

The Arch bishop of Canterbury thinks we should give Asylum to Iraqi Christians. Just what we need tens of thousands of more people with an axe to grind on our shores. 

On the  streets of western cities yesterday people were calling for the occupation of Palestine to end. That means clearing all jews dead or alive out of the region. So, the people of the west are not against genocide, so why do we give a damn about how many people are killed anywhere.

The people of the west are calling for a Caliphate. Idiots doesn't even half way explain their stupidity. Attacks against Jews are increasing, those that can't flee will be forced to fight, and if we start taking in more refugees from the middle east and Africa  the violence on our streets will only in crease.

I also noticed the UK raised £4.5 million for Gaza yesterday in just 2 hours. That'll buy plenty of missiles. it proves that not only are we calling for the genocide of Israel, we are prepared to fund it as well.



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At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

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