The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Hugh | November 19, 2007 1:16 PM

A Muslim poster above, one "Logic," would have us believe, through his highly selective and misleading quotations from the Qur'an (and he could do the same, no doubt, with Hadith from Bukhari and Muslim), would have us deny what "our lying eyes" tell us as we consider the history of non-Muslim peoples -- Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and Buddhists -- wherever they came under Muslim sway, and Muslim rule. He would have us ignore, or carefully never discover for ourselves, what can be found in articles at a thousand sites -- start with www.faithfreedom.org and www.answering-islam.org -- or in such books on the subject of the treatment of non-Muslims under Islam as three by Bat Ye'or, which are highly recommended, as important for all non-Muslims to read, and to thoroughly assimilate them, lest they be susceptible to the kind of propaganda that "Logic" offers above.

Tthere are thousands of articles as well as books by other scholars, especially during the Golden Age of Western Study of Islam, roughly 1870 to 1970, before the Great Inhibition descended, on the fate of non-Muslims under Islam. A very good one is that by the Lebanese Christian legal scholar Antoine Fattal -- "Le status legal des non-Musulmans en pays d'Islam" -- but it remains, as yet, untranslated into English (this should be some publishing house's priority project, or possibly funded by some intelligent Maecenas).

But because they are the work of the pioneering scholar who made the status of the dhimmi her speciality, I would recommend three books by Bat Ye'or to begin with:

1) "The Dhimmi"
2) "Islam and Dhimmitude"
3) "The Decline of Christianity Under Islam"

As for the execrable treatment of Zoroastrians under Islam, the histories of Mary Boyce, and even her memoir of living with the remaining Zoroastrian community in Iran during the time of the Shah, are recommended.

And for the treatment -- and mass murder (with 60-80 million victims) -- of Hindus by their Muslim masters, during Muslim rule in India, the work of K. S. Lal, including "The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India," are also recommended.

Instead of the verses quoted -- most misleadingly, including that old chestnut of the apologists for Islam, 2.256 -- "There is no compulsion in religion" -- a phrase which Muslim commentators gloss quite differently for their fellow Muslims from what the apologists tell or imply, by merely qauoting, it means to unwary Infidels, of whom there remain many, though fewer, thank god, every day (and they are prompted to engage in study of Islam -- not what the apologists and Muslim promoters of Da'wa offer, but the real Islam, the Islam that Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Ali Sina and ibn Warraq and all the most intellectually and morally advanced people who, through no fault of their own, were born into Islma, have testified as to its real meaning, the meaning that Muslims give to the texts and the tenets, and that are reflected in their deeply-held attitudes, and that are in the very air, that are part of what may be called the atmospherics, of societies suffused with Islam, or even of discrete families or local groups suffused with Islam.

Finally, for those who would like a bit of the real Islamic view of Infidels, the Islam that "Logic" would prefer you not to become aware of, simply google for the full text of the Qur'an, and also for the Hadith, that can be found conveniently on-line, and you can then insert various words -- "Jew" and "Christian" and "Unbelieber" and find what the texts -- Qur'an and Hadith -- have to say.

You might, however, merely start with the Calcutta Koran Petition. See what Jihad-verses from the Qur'an are to be found there. Study them carefully. See what you think of the duty of Jihad, imposed on all Muslims, to spread Islam, to remove all barriers put up by non-Muslims to the spread of Islam (hint: the American Constituion constitutes a barrier to the spread of Islam, and especially, the individual rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights), and how this is defined by Muslims as Infidel "aggression" to which Muslims have a perfect right to respond in any way they see fit.

Yes, start with that Calcutta Koran Petition. And then go from the Qur'an -- as if that were not disturbing and menacing enough -- to the Hadith, those deemed most "authentic" by the most authoritative muhaddithin, Bukhari and Muslim, and then to the Sira. Don't forget the piquant tales, of little Aisha and Asma bint Marwan, of the decapitation of the Banu Qurayza, of the attack, for loot and women, on the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, of the decepvite "treaty" of Al-Hudaibiyya, which became the model for all subsequent treaty-making between Muslims and non-Muslims. Don't forget that Muhammad is the Model of Conduct, uswa hasana, the Perfect Man, al-insan al-kamil, so that what he did matters, matters very much, through time and space.

"Logic" certainly thinks so. And as a good Muslim, he is simply being true to the letter and spirit of Muhammad's famous remark that "war is deception." Confuse the Infidels, or distract them, or keep them constantly off-guard, so that they never quite grasp what Jihad, what the subsequent subjugation of all non-Muslims, will mean -- as it has meant for hundreds of millions of non-Muslims in the past, over 1350 years of entirely consistent history of conquesdt and subjugtation -- for them, and for their children and grandchildren, unless they come to their collective seneses in time, and take the most obvious and elementary steps to protect themselves physically, and their own civilizations, their art, their science, their individual freedoms and rights, not any of which would remain the same if Muslims acquired dominance or anything close to dominance.

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