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History of Islam - posting by Hugh

Hugh | November 19, 2007 1:16 PM A Muslim poster above, one "Logic," would have us believe, through his highly selective and misleading qu…

Started by Netcon

0 Sep 28, 2009

Islam's 1400 Years of Slavery

Islamic history is the world's primary driving force behind black African slavery. The Islamic black slave trade engendered brutality, sexu…

Started by Charles Martel

1 Sep 22, 2009
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The Quran Permits Slavery

Exact figures are hard to come by, but Islamic slavery was about 1/10th the size of Slavery to the West, although since most of the slaves…

Started by Charles Martel

2 Sep 22, 2009
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Race, Racism (and Islam) "Islam is an ideology. It's not a race." - Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR spokesperson Race…

Started by Netcon

0 Sep 16, 2009

Handling foreign languages in 4freedoms

Question from a member: Should there be other languages than English allowed on 4freedoms and under what circumstances? Allowing other lang…

Started by Netcon

8 Sep 16, 2009
Reply by Netcon


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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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