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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Dave said The boat loads of illegals coming to Australia all come from Indonesia, no…"

shiva replied Jul 3, 2012 to Australian Labour Govt. helps Indonesia suppress kuffar

1 Jul 3, 2012
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"Al Ghafur (The All-Forgiving) must be looking the other way On 6 May 2010, a court…"

shiva replied Jun 15, 2012 to Kuffar Civil Servant Jailed for Blasphemy

1 Jun 15, 2012
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"Maryam Namazie here in Indonesia, please have mercy on us. "

shiva replied May 21, 2012 to Slutwalk

3 May 21, 2012
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"Update On October 11, 2011, the East Jakarta Court sentenced Julia Perez three month…"

shiva replied May 20, 2012 to Yuli Rachmawati aka Julia Perez, sexy Star, runs for Elections against Imams

2 May 20, 2012
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"Future Headline: El Baradei appeals for more time after nuclear "tragedy" El Baradei…"

shiva replied Feb 14, 2010 to NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE

2 Feb 15, 2010
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"In March 2003 John Rumbiak, West Papua's famous human rights investigator, stated th…"

shiva replied Feb 12, 2010 to West Papua Transmigration Program (Islamization)

7 Feb 12, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

"DEMAS Half-spirit, half-human folk who live — or lived — on paradisiacal Earth. Thei…"

shiva replied Feb 12, 2010 to West Papua Transmigration Program (Islamization)

7 Feb 12, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

"At the US White House a proposal to have the Netherlands trade West New Guinea to In…"

shiva replied Feb 11, 2010 to West Papua Transmigration Program (Islamization)

7 Feb 12, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

"In 1942, the northern coast of West New Guinea and the nearby islands were occupie…"

shiva replied Feb 11, 2010 to West Papua Transmigration Program (Islamization)

7 Feb 12, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

"Christians mutilated in "holy war" Victims tell harrowing tales of forced circumcis…"

shiva replied Nov 25, 2009 to Forced Conversions, Circumcision in Moluccas

4 Nov 26, 2009
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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