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Infiltration / Parasitism

The Open Society has many enemies and vulnerabilities, through which the entire society is victimized. Thus this room will attempt to monitor:

  • Infiltration of its institutions
  • Subversion of its freedoms
  • Parasitism of its welfare and legal code
  • Unpatriotic responses to national problems

Search Site: http://4freedoms.ning.com/main/search/search?q=Zsubversion
Members: 12
Latest Activity: on Wednesday

Key Info

A safe and secure democracy depends on the correct functioning of its institutions. This in turn depends on:
(a) the incorrigibility of its officers
(b) some honesty in the population, in not seeking to exploit every available weakness.

So this room documents:
(a) cases where members of the police, judiciary, armed forces, or government bodies (like the passport office), are shown to be operating as 5th columnists, or for criminal benefit
(b) cases where large segments of the population are living like parasites off the society, in a disproportionate way to their contribution.

Discussion Forum

Hijacked Watchmen: Charities

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11. 2 Replies

Lutfur Rahman - Collected Articles

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iEngage Re-Brands Itself as "MEND"

Started by Joe. Last reply by Paul Austin Murphy Jul 13. 3 Replies

Profiling Muslims

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony May 31. 29 Replies

Fiyaz Mughal

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony May 9. 12 Replies

The Back-Channels Muslims Use

Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Apr 8. 2 Replies

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Comment by Antony on Wednesday
Comment by Joe on September 28, 2014 at 23:06

Kinana, Paul and I were discussing this weekend how Robert Spencer just doesn't go the whole hog.  It seems like he is so desperate for rapprochement with someone, anyone on the other side, that he holds back from following the trail.

It's not just that christianity has nothing like 9:29.  Surah 9 was virtually the last thing that left the mouth of Mohammed.  It's as if as he was being crucified, Jesus commanded his apostles to kill those who did not follow Jesus.

I don't see how Spencer cannot see this dichotomy as clearly as a non-christian like me.  

Comment by paul collings on September 28, 2014 at 21:06

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&s...

Alright Joe,

I'm just putting this piece here from breitbart as the sunday times don't let you read all their article without a account.

They say this could be worse than Birmingham.  What could be worse? its just more of the same, its just the extent of the problem that is being realised.

All these radicals being educated. It makes you wonder if there are any moderates left in Britain. Although what is a moderate Muslim?

I notice a few imams  have asked ISIS to not kill the British taxi driver. They haven't denounced ISIS, or the text they use to justify their actions, they have merely said they are wrong in this case, but all of a sudden these Imams have suddenly shown their 'moderate' side and are being hailed as such.

These are the same moderate muslims who want muslim only swim sessions, who want a mosque in every town, even though theres not enough Muslims, (yet) to fill them. These are the same moderate muslims who take offence at the sight of ornament pigs on some ones window sill, they take offence of women who show their hair, of people who have a can of lager in their hand as they walk near a mosque, they complain about dogs, pepper pig, and I bey they'd complain if you sent them a card from moonpig.com!  

Britain is full of moderates, they are being taught how to be moderate in schools that we fund. They are being taught to moderately insist on following their religion, and making sure we are dhimmis.

 There's  a whole generation of Muslims who have been educated in the Islamic traditions. And they are here.

Comment by Joe on September 28, 2014 at 18:55

Trojan Horse2: 12 schools in East London controlled by islamic extremists.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Education/article1...

How come anyone is surprised?  They just weren't looking at these schools in the last 20 years.

Comment by Kinana on September 13, 2014 at 16:33

'The idea that the Jewish and Christian Scriptures are equivalent to the Qur’an in their capacity to incite violence is extremely common, but that doesn’t make it true. There is nary a single passage in the Jewish or Christian Scriptures that is remotely equivalent to the open-ended, universal command to believers to wage war against and subjugate unbelievers found in Qur’an 9:29.'  Robert Spencer

Joe, thanks for the link to Jihad Watch

Comment by Joe on September 13, 2014 at 9:44

Tim Stanley, PhD, saying ISIS is not islamic, even though he's unfamiliar with the koran. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/uk-historian-bill-maher-is-wrong-...

People like him are ensuring that they will be a laughing stock in 5 years or so.  

Comment by Joe on September 4, 2014 at 17:55

So, despite knowing that muslims would kill him for being jewish, he was still pro-islam?

A network of 150 friends and acquaintances worked throughout his time in captivity to remove all online references to his faith whenever they arose, according to one report.

Avi Hoffman, editor of the Jerusalem Report, said: “We refused to acknowledge any relationship with him in case it was dangerous for him.”

American media organisations also decided not to publish the fact that he was Jewish.

After Mr Sotloff was murdered by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil), Paul Hirschson, a spokesman for Israel’s foreign ministry, tweeted: “Cleared for publication: Steven Sotloff was Israel citizen RIP.”

When he was reporting in Muslim countries, Mr Sotloff reportedly told anyone who asked about his background that his surname was Chechen in origin and he had been raised as a non-practising Muslim, without attending mosques.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/11075575/Steve...

Imagine that: Israeli media, US media, and 150 people all working to conceal he was jewish.  And he was still beheaded for being not a muslim.  

But still: it's got Nothing To Do With Islam, and we have nothing to worry about.

Comment by Joe on September 4, 2014 at 17:49

Foley, Sotloff and Briitsh captive were all pro-islam.

http://pamelageller.com/2014/09/like-foley-sotloff-british-hostage-...

Be careful what you wish for....

Comment by Joe on August 31, 2014 at 9:06

British journalist, whilst refusing to criticise islam, says kafirs should learn the rudiments of islam, so they can pass as muslims in a situation where the Religion of Peace wants to behead them or mutilate them.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/national-post-advises-convert-to-...

Comment by Joe on August 31, 2014 at 9:03

Kafir female prof. says Europe must embrace islam or face the wrath of irate jihadis.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/prof-to-end-appeal-of-islamic-sta...

 

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Mission Overview

Most prosperous Western societies are based on a model we call the Secular Democratic Marketplace (SDM). Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the principal agents exploiting these defects, is Islam. Therefore, this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks; nor to read them; nor even to record them. So 4F gives only a brief overview of how far it has advanced and by what methods.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow Muslims the possibility of escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close the 4 vulnerabilities in the standard model of SDM, by making them Self-Preserving (SP) according to Hobbes's first law of nature.
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Religion
Any religious or cultural activity is allowed - except one which intrudes into the public sphere (and thus threatens these freedoms).  The public sphere is kept secular and protected from abuse by legal oversight. 
4. SP Freedom of the Market
Any economic activity is allowed - except one which leads to the destruction of these freedoms. Such activity is subject to government oversight.

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