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Kuffarphobia via Infiltration of Govt. & NGOs

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Kuffarphobia via Infiltration of Govt. & NGOs

State organisations be used as tools of kuffarphobic oppression, either when misdirected by quislings, or if hijacked by Islamic infiltration. This may be done through Government, Councils, Police, Military, Health Service and by parasitism of the Welfare System

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Latest Activity: on Thursday

Key Info

A safe and secure democracy depends on the correct functioning of its institutions. This in turn depends on:
(a) the incorrigibility of its officers
(b) some honesty in the population, in not seeking to exploit every available weakness.

So this room documents:
(a) cases where members of the police, judiciary, armed forces, or government bodies (like the passport office), are shown to be operating as 5th columnists, or for criminal benefit
(b) cases where large segments of the population are living like parasites off the society, in a disproportionate way to their contribution.

Discussion Forum

Sadiq Khan - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony on Wednesday. 12 Replies

Fiyaz Mughal

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Mar 18. 23 Replies

UK: Anti-Muslim crimes get own category

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Oct 15, 2015. 12 Replies

Hijacked Watchmen: Charities

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 25, 2015. 3 Replies

Welfare Jihad in Europe - by Soeren Kern

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jun 3, 2015. 2 Replies

iEngage Re-Brands Itself as "MEND"

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 5, 2015. 5 Replies

Afzal Amin

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 29, 2015. 3 Replies

The Back-Channels Muslims Use

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Feb 23, 2015. 3 Replies

The Take-over of State Schools

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 18, 2015. 7 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on Thursday

It is tragic that some of those opposed to the islamification of the West somehow manage to blame the jews for it.

Hello, wake up, there is not and never has been a global zionist conspiracy.

It is the socialists and the muslims that are the enemy; miserable stupid fucking ignorant bastards that they are. Do not be like them. They are messing up the world in search of impossible and idealistic aims. OK global unity is fine, but it will not be achieved by simply declaring nations redundant, by dissolving borders and ignoring human nature and needs. We have to tread carefully, the current policies are creating conflict not unity.

If you want to eliminate the threat from Islam and the destruction of our societies by uncontrolled immigration, you have to recognize and oppose the real enemies. Not the imagined ones, that are supposedly wishing destruction on us in order to out of the ashes somehow achieve total control and power over all of humanity.

Right now we need nationalists and patriots; global unity has to wait on better times.

Comment by Antony on Wednesday

Language tutor says migrants only interested in benefits ; http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/14/english-class-refugees-b...

Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 18, 2016 at 11:08

We are free only if we are determined to remain free.

We have assumed that we are free and generously extended this freedom to others. To those that despise and would enslave us.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 18, 2016 at 11:02

Sounds like the problem is freedom Alan. As you imply, Islam is a closed society; welcome in but once you are in stop thinking.  As you also say, almost every muslim automatically defends Islam. Whatever the criticism is they totally ignore the arguments or counter with claims that to an outsider are patently not true. 

Muslims exist in another reality completely alien to ours.

We cannot defend freedom in the way that muslims defend Islam, we cannot lie and decieve ourselves and indulge in blind faith and obedience.

I do actually know what sort of mess we are in and how we got into it, and how to get out of it. We have to adapt our concept of freedom to include that freedom for us involves denying others freedom. We lock up criminals to protect ourselves from their predations. Now we have to deny muslims and other categories of immigrants the right to live on our soil and the privileges that our concept of freedom has allowed them. We cannot give criminals the freedom to rob us and we cannot give muslims the right to subdue us. 

By not understand, I mean how was it that those that could have stopped it, did not, and even assisted in the destruction of our nation? How did equality, justice, tolerance and compassion become words that disgust me?

They did not do it to benefit me, us, they did it purely in order to feel good about themselves, to be above criticism, to have a clean conscience and to be free of "sin".

They will not stand up and admit their mistakes, so we have to find means to repair the damage and restore the nation. We have to aquire power.

Comment by Alan Lake on September 18, 2016 at 6:05

The why is the mystery, how did we get mislead into surrender without resistance. You can explain it but you cannot understand it.

Well Philip, as usual with all difficult questions, I think its the question which is on the wrong track.  

The converse question is: "How come we managed to stay free for so long?", and I think that's due to several accidents of history and geography.  For example, one reason for the USA's growth and independence is that it is gifted with protective barriers of 2 massive oceans, deep water harbours, long rivers, etc, and no major enemies to North and South.

I think the reason we Europeans kept our freedom was at first thanks to geography and technology, then later because of what is now called "prejudice".  Upto the middle of the 20th century, it was simply too difficult and expensive for large numbers of people to move about, so our delicate little societies could blossom in peace.

Then when transport technology started to overcome geography and distance, other non-democratic peoples were kept away by so-called "prejudice", which is really just the accumulated knowledge of past generations and the natural wariness of that which is new, foreign and unknown. Take that away from the Open Society and there's nothing left to protect it from determined foreign ideologies that want to erode it from the inside, or even totally hijack it.

So the "4 Freedoms" summary on every page says:

But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).

It is nobody's job (at present) to protect the fundamental framework of this Open Society.  Yes, the police enforce the law, and the judges adjudicate it, and parliament creates laws ... but everyone is tied up in their own little world, and there is NOBODY who's job it is to maintain the fundamental open, secular and democratic framework of our entire society.

MP's could do it if they were intelligent enough and concerned enough and not worrying more about trans gender bathrooms and how to get re-elected - but that is simply not going to happen.

To understand this from another angle, note how Muslims have their own equivalent of POS, Protector of the Open Society, that we are missing.  They have PIS, Protector of the Islamic Society, because every imam and even every Muslim is required to do just that, whenever the need arises or Islam is challenged in any way.

In other words, the system has been systemically vulnerable and flawed from the beginning.  We had plenty of time to fix it, but our political 'scientists' were simply not up to the job. That this society survived so far, was only thanks to the lucky historical accidents described before.

Comment by Antony on September 17, 2016 at 9:52
Hear Hear Phil ! aside from the Royals, much pheasant rearing and grouse shooting is funded by corporate hospitality tax fiddles, offshore accounting and farm grant and subsidy scams - end parasitism now !
Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 17, 2016 at 9:06

Royals and other aristocrats should be stripped of their titles, wealth and property. These stately homes and palaces that they constantly complain about having to upkeep should be sold off or turned into hotels, golf clubs, spas, nursing homes, apartments, museums or hotels. The land areas, turned into public parks or nature reserves or divided up into farms. I am not a socialist but I am a democrat and this sort of privilege is unjust and inherited positions are undemocratic. In this case property is theft.

Comment by Antony on September 17, 2016 at 7:03

Taxpayer's money wasted on soldiers used to beat Queen's grouse ; https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2016/09/16/royal-gr...

Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 16, 2016 at 17:55

I see many muslims congratulating this ambassador, he has 1.7 billion on his side.

He should have been dismissed, but as long as the powers that be regard Islam to be a religion just like any other......

We are being treated in our own lands in the same way that the jews and the populations of occupied countries were treated by the nazis. The gauleiters (muslim mayors) and gestapo (pc police) are already in place. Democracy has been eroded and half the population either does not care or approves of the persecution of those that once were citizens with rights. Those that do care are being rendered impotent and  disenfanchised,. The why is the mystery, how did we get mizzled into surrender without resistence. You can explain it but you cannot understand it. How did things get so bad and what can we do to put it right? Back to how it was when we owned this land.

Comment by Alan Lake on September 16, 2016 at 15:59

So converting to communism or fascism or any other totalitarian ideology is a private matter - even when you are the British Ambassador? What nonsense.

 

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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