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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Warsi speaking at a FOSIS conference.   http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3704/brita…"

Joe replied May 8, 2013 to Baroness Warsi

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"Here is what Peter Tatchell had to say about Hizb ut Tahrir, at the time that Barone…"

Joe replied Mar 17, 2013 to Baroness Warsi

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"Abid Hussain has, of course, denied being a member of Hizb ut Tahrir.  Well, some ot…"

Joe replied Mar 17, 2013 to Baroness Warsi

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"Theresa May says that more will be done to stop islamic terrorists raising money for…"

Joe replied Mar 5, 2013 to Paying People to Hate You: European Institutions Funding Fascist Jew Hatred

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"Lutfur Rahman's £3000 on taxis in 2 months. This despite being the mayor of one of t…"

Joe replied Feb 27, 2013 to Lutfur Rahman - Collected Articles

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"The scam was exposed after officials at Redbridge Council in east London ­received a…"

Joe replied Feb 12, 2013 to £315k Jizya from Stupid Kafirs.

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"Facts not revealed by the Daily Mail: The wives both claimed benefits as single moth…"

Joe replied Feb 12, 2013 to £315k Jizya from Stupid Kafirs.

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"16 years of fraud. One of them has a previous conviction for fraud.  None of them se…"

Joe replied Feb 12, 2013 to £315k Jizya from Stupid Kafirs.

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"I'm no fan of the revolutionary communist Maryam Namazie, but she almost thinks like…"

Joe replied Feb 8, 2013 to World Hijab Day! Why Not World Behead Someone Day?

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"Exactly what I thought.  What a joke.  If he made £1 a week from each book he'd be r…"

Joe replied Jan 25, 2013 to Canada: Quadri, more lies ?

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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