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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"We simply cannot imagine the devotion, the determination, the single-mindedness of M…"

Joe replied Jan 22, 2016 to ACLU + Muslims v NYPD over politically-correct report

4 Jan 22, 2016
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"I saved that before I was ready, as I thought Ning might delete the added PDF. I wan…"

Joe replied Jan 21, 2016 to ACLU + Muslims v NYPD over politically-correct report

4 Jan 22, 2016
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"It doesn't even need to be muslims within the police/judiciary: just Quislings for k…"

Joe replied Nov 24, 2015 to Muslim Infiltration of the Police and Army

26 Jul 14
Reply by Alan Lake

"Europeans in border-free Schengen are stopped from crossing borders to protest about…"

Joe replied Oct 28, 2015 to Islam and Refugees - Muslims need not apply

4 Oct 28, 2015
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"Most attacks on jews are disproportionately by muslims/immigrants.  Where's the trus…"

Joe replied Oct 14, 2015 to UK: Anti-Muslim crimes get own category

12 Oct 15, 2015
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"Andrew Norfolk has now turned his attention to Shamnesty's muslim connections.  He r…"

Joe replied Aug 18, 2015 to Hijacked Watchmen: Amnazi (Amnesty) International

14 Jan 27, 2021
Reply by Antony

"Press Complaints Commission finds against Fiyaz Mughal on all counts. http://blogs.t…"

Joe replied Apr 30, 2015 to Fiyaz Mughal

23 Mar 18, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"iEngage/Mend/Azad Ali (he of UAF) claim to be able to influence outcome in 30 consti…"

Joe replied Apr 5, 2015 to iEngage Re-Brands Itself as "MEND"

5 Apr 5, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"And we wonder why the police allowed the grooming gangs to get away with their crime…"

Joe replied Apr 1, 2015 to Muslim Infiltration of the Police and Army

26 Jul 14
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"Muslim MI5 agent planned to kill his handler.…"

Joe replied Mar 31, 2015 to Muslim Infiltration of the Police and Army

26 Jul 14
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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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