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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Everyone should listen to this interview, to see there is FAR, FAR more to the this Afzal Amin story.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/tommy-robinson-live-on-lbc-106900

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Obviously the Conservatives are going to do damage limitation on this. Even if the truth has to suffer, but the tapes are quite clear and there is no mistaking what Afzal was saying.

The suggestion that Afzal had been friends with the as yet un named money man for 20 yrs should ring alarm bells with everyone as this suggests they knew each other before Afzal joined the Army. So joining a political party and aiming to be PM could well have been a long term strategy.

Afzals long term finances will have to be looked at, as well as those people he may have had contact with.

We know he had access to Prince William, this would have made him a desirable target for certain politically motivated groups. Who has he mixed with, do his finances check out, im just a voter and I'd like to know. For Some one who could  possibly have been  a Prime minister of Britain to be so corrupt and to even have been backed by unknown people with an unknown agenda is the stuff of movies.  

Are our Political leaders so desperate to encourage ethnic minorities into their parties that they throw national security to the wind.

How many Muslim MP's would it require before laws in parliament are brought in and voted on that start favouring Islam.

 The Undeserved Baroness  Warsi has some unsavoury links and has been a disaster for the Cons, now Afzal looks not to be the person Cameron thought he was.  We need change in this country. While we still Have a country.

http://order-order.com/2015/03/23/top-cop-calls-afzal-amin-out-for-...

This from Guido. It seems a top cop can't collaborate Afzal's story.

I can't understand why Labour aren't making more political gain from this story?

Not only did that LBC invertview show this story was far worse than the media were reporting, but new information has come to light. Afzal Amin, a muslim with his eys on becoming PM, had written pamplets exhorting muslims to become terrorists.

Revealed: 'Walter Mitty' Tory vote fixer exposed by MoS wrote jihadi pamphlet calling on warriors to create Muslim state in Europe 

  • Tory Election candidate was exposed for plotting with far-Right extremists 
  • Afzal Amin joined Birmingham wing of the Murabitu, a fundamentalist cult
  • In 1992, at the age of 18, he left the group after becoming disillusioned
  • Two years later, a book crediting him as the author criticised the Murabitun
  • It praised men engaging in conflict against the kuffar [unbeliever]' and hoped for the 'liberation of the Muslims wherever we are’
  • But Amin says his words were doctored to include the extremist views

The Tory Election candidate exposed for plotting with far-Right extremists to stir up racial hatred is a former member of a fanatical Islamic sect that believes the Nazis were misunderstood and that Jews control the world.

Afzal Amin, who resigned after The Mail on Sunday published undercover recordings of him meeting the English Defence League, joined the Birmingham wing of the Murabitun, a fundamentalist cult which questioned the Holocaust and praised Hitler.

In 1992 when Amin was 18, he left the group, founded by Scottish hippy Ian Dallas, after becoming disillusioned. 

Two years later, a book crediting him as author Raja Afzal Raza Amin al-Quraishy, was published in which he criticised the Murabitun and called for jihadi warriors to establish a Muslim state in Euro

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3016406/Walter-Mitty-Tory-v...

Afzal Amin claims he did not write the pamphlet. Just as he claims that he did not try to organise a fake EDL demo.

When I first encountered EDL, and went along with their line that the majority of muslims were moderate and islam could be reformed, a well-read street-sweeper from the EDL introduced me to a pakistani apostate.  They asked me my views, then set around and demolished them.  The apostate said that groups like Quilliam, formed from those who "left" Hizb ut Tahrir, were not truly moderate, but were a "plan B" --sleepers who were to use their moderation to infiltrate and to get closer to power and to be prepared to wait decades to take over.  The apostate was clear: no kafir can ever trust any muslim, but might be able to trust an apostate.  

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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