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Anti-Muslim crimes get own category in statistics

Anti-Muslim hate crimes will be recorded as a separate category by all police forces in England and Wales, the prime minister has said.

The move brings Islamophobia in line with anti-Semitic attacks targeting Jewish people, which have been recorded separately for some time.

It comes ahead of the publication of yearly hate crime statistics, which are expected to show further rises.

The Metropolitan Police already records Islamophobic crime.

The government said creating a separate category across the board would "enable police, prosecutors, councils and the communities they serve to have a better understanding of the prevalence of anti-Muslim hate crime and allocate resources accordingly".

"It will provide the first accurate picture of the extent of anti-Muslim hate crime in England and Wales," Downing Street said.

'No place'

At the first meeting of a new community engagement forum later on Tuesday, Mr Cameron will also announce new funding for the security of all faith establishments, including mosques.

The forum, which was announced in July, will discuss the objectives of the government's upcoming counter-extremism strategy, which is due for publication later this month.

Speaking ahead of the meeting, Mr Cameron said: "We all have a role to play in confronting extremism. That's why I have invited important Muslim and non-Muslim figures to join the new community engagement forum so I can hear directly about their work in our communities, the challenges they face and so that they can be part of our one nation strategy to defeat it.

"I want to build a national coalition to challenge and speak out against extremists and the poison they peddle. I want British Muslims to know we will back them to stand against those who spread hate and to counter the narrative which says Muslims do not feel British.

"And I want police to take more action against those who persecute others simply because of their religion."

Home Secretary Theresa May said hate crime had "no place in Britain".

"Working with police to provide a breakdown in religious-based hate crime data will help forces to build community trust, target their resources and enable the public to hold them to account," she added.

Police recorded 44,480 hate crimes in England and Wales during 2013-14. That was up 5% on the previous year across race, religion, sexual orientation, disability and transgender - the five key measures that feature in national figures.

But a further breakdown indicates there was a 45% jump in religiously motivated incidents to 2,273 - which an official report at the time said was partly down to more anti-Muslim incidents following the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby by Islamic extremists in south-east London in May 2013.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34511274

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The kuffarphobes have achieved another milestone.  It's not enough, apparently, to recognise Islamophobia, but now Muslimophobia has to be added as well.  But of course, Kuffarphobia is not recognised, the white trash don't count in today's world.

Ironically, the BBC article has a massive scary photo of a burqa headed woman, to rub the point in that you are not allowed to object to that.

Muslim crimes do not have their own category in statistics. Much crime carried out by Muslims in non-Muslim countries is definable as hate crime, racially motivated, or religionist.

"...serve to have a better understanding of the prevalence of anti-Muslim hate crime....".

Should have read:

serve to have a better understanding of the prevalence of anti-Kuffar hate crime.

and

the extent of anti-Kuffar hate crime in England and Wales.

anti-British hate crime had "no place in Britain".

And as regards manipulation and redefining reality to fit an ideology: "our one nation strategy", "British Muslims",  "simply because of their religion", "religious-based hate crime", "enable the public to hold them to account", "religiously motivated, anti-Muslim incidents".

Which leaves the listener with the impression that the Muslims are the innocent victims of racist attacks.

Attacks on Muslims are otherwise defined as racist, but here defined as anti-religious.

Are the attacks on Jews racist or religionist?

Members of the Islamic cult have long sought the right to practise their 'faith' without us Kaffir poking fun or indeed becoming offended by its many questionable acts of worship, like stoning their women who have been raped, or honour attacks, or the sport of throwing gays from buildings.

Islam especially doesn't like it when people point to the antics of their founder and hero Muhammad. Killing raping and hating.

So now hate laws have been brought in to make criminals of all who object to Islam. A non muslim looking in the eyes of a Muslim is an assault.  A non muslim hold a position of authority above a Muslim is an assault.

The followers of Muhammad just want to practise their religion in peace. That means No peace for the rest of us.  This Government is paving the way for the ever increasing numbers of Muhammadans set to become a force in this country.

  

If the BBC were brave, sane or even on this planet, they would allow comment, but then the truth would leak in.

Speaking ahead of the meeting, Mr Cameron said: "We all have a role to play in confronting extremism. That's why I have invited important Muslim and non-Muslim figures to join the new community engagement forum so I can hear directly about their work in our communities, the challenges they face and so that they can be part of our one nation strategy to defeat it.

David Cameron in 2005: "muslim extremists are Nazis"

What was his role these past 10 years in combatting these Nazis in Britain?

"I want to build a national coalition to challenge and speak out against extremists and the poison they peddle. I want British Muslims to know we will back them to stand against those who spread hate and to counter the narrative which says Muslims do not feel British.

18 of the 20 largest muslim organisations in Britain support the Caliphate.

The % of active "moderate muslims" is so small, it is statistically zero.

"And I want police to take more action against those who persecute others simply because of their religion."

Koran 9:5, "kill the unbelievers", is not a command to persecute others simply because of their religion?  What action have police taken? Have korans been banned?

Home Secretary Theresa May said hate crime had "no place in Britain".

When muslims from East London Mosque plastered east London in signs saying "Gay Free Zone", the BBC hid it, the police worked with muslims and "gay leaders" to conceal the number of muslims involved and where they got the stickers, and the patsy who was prosecuted did not even get prosecuted for a hate crime.

Only straight, white Britons can be prosecuted for hate crime.  The elite are not even honest enough to put that caveat into the legislation.

"Working with police to provide a breakdown in religious-based hate crime data will help forces to build community trust, target their resources and enable the public to hold them to account," she added.

Most attacks on jews are disproportionately by muslims/immigrants.  Where's the trust?

99.5% of muslims are anti-gay.  Where's the trust?

If you are going to ban and punish hate-speech then you have to ban Islam. The Scriptures of Islam are full of hate speech, incitement to violence and killing, and discrimination against non-Muslims.

Incitement to violence.

Incitement to hatred.

Incitement to murder.

Incitement to discrimination.

Let us say that I was to write a manifesto that called for; the killing of Muslims, attacks on Muslims, destruction of their holy sites. That called for the boycotting and banning of Islam and discrimination against Muslims. That incited to hatred against Muslims, that criticized and condemned the ideology of Islam, that called for a crusade against all of the world until it submitted to my will and system of belief. 

My manifesto would be simply a mirror image of the Muslim Manifesto.

Cameron has the muslim manifesto in his hands, what would he do if he had my manifesto in his hands?

A Muslim cannot plead innocence, he knows full-well all that we know about Islam. The Islamists make it very clear which texts they apply. It is virtually impossible that any Muslim has not heard or read the islamist statements. Western leaders and liberal-leftists are also completely aware of what the islamists say and that this comes from none other than Mohammed. 

Cameron believes that moderate Muslims can combat extremism and create a moderate version of Islam that the world can live with. There is no moderate version of Islam, you cannot just pick and choose what texts to accept and what to not. Islam is not to be confused with Christianity. If we ignore the Old Testament (pick and choose ourselves) and concentrate on the New Testament ( the new contract with God) then the message of Christ is one of Love, the same cannot be said of Mohammed. Remember that Mohammed was well aware of what is now called the Old Testament and wrote his own new testament called the Quran. What they are both saying is that if you do not accept what they are saying you will go to Hell. The difference is Christ did not command his followers to kill and persecute non-believers, if they did that they did it in their own right. Those that kill and persecute in the name of Allah find ample justification in the texts about Mohammed.

Philip,
A previously active member did just that: produce an inverse Quran, in which the words 'muslim' and infidel/kafir/christian etc, were exchanged. Unfortunately, that was another project that never quite got off the ground.

Every movement has basic principles that are easy to understand. It is only necessary to rewrite these fundamental rules, ensure that they are "correct" and support them with appropriate koran quotes. And as far as it is possible make your claims impossible to refute, with fact or reasoned argument.

Not a task for me, I am too undisciplined. It needs a strictly logical mind and should be concise and of course to the point. It is not necessary to rewrite the whole of the Koran, the bits the islamists love to quote are a start. 

A section that refutes, once and for all, every moderate muslim claim would also be useful. Ready answers.

Conflicting definitions of words.

Peace.

The religion of peace.

Islam divides the world into two houses, the house of war and the house of peace. Peace is then not just absence of conflict, it is submission to the will of Allah/Islam. Peace can only be achieved by becoming a Muslim or by paying tribute to Muslims. The house of war means making war on all non-Muslims until they submit to Islam or are killed.

Peace to us means just quiet and absence of conflict.

This definition is amusing: peace; "used as an order to remain silent".

How can you trust a Muslim when you cannot be sure that he is sincere?. His religion tells him to deceive and to plot against the infidel.
Qur'an (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."  This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit.  Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly.
 
Pretending would be reasonable advice to someone in a position of danger- “Pretend to be something you are not, in order to survive”.
But this is another kind of advice- “Pretend to be someone’s friend only until you are in a position to destroy him”.
The one advice is about survival, the other is about deceit and evil intent.
 
There are certain quotes from the Muslim religious texts that are worth noting and remembering more than others.
 

Philip,

As long as you remember a Muslim cannot go against his religion, and will follow it to the letter, you can be sure he is sincere. He will be sincere in his hate for you, he will be sincere in his love of Islam, and he will lie sincerely in its defence and promotion.

Islam kills those that leave it, insult it and laugh at it. It may act like a little lamb at times, but that's only when its too weak to fight. Once it amasses enough strength it will attack.

History has shown time again that Islam does exactly as commanded in the text. Reading the Koran and understanding it is an instruction manual is very important.

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