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Kuffarphobia in Iran

برای ایرانی بهائی ، زرتشتی و دیگران درد و رنج را از خشونت و آزار و اذیت رژیم بنیادگرا

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 10, 2018 at 10:48

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/09/iranian-lawmakers-burn-us-f...

Iranian lawmakers burn US flag, yell ‘death to America’ after Trump withdraws from nuclear deal

This is the true face of an islamic state. Freedom and democracy cannot coexist with Islam.
As long as a human being identifies as a Muslim he is part of this, the intolerant totalitarian system that only believes in Sharia.
It is unlikely, with there being 1.8 billion Muslims, that Islam will ever cease to be a threat to any country that is not already an islamic state. As others have said, this is a permanent war and we have to understand that and not admit Muslims into our lands,
Even if Islam succeeded in its purpose and the entire planet became Muslim there would still be persecution of anyone that did not conform.

Comment by Antony on May 9, 2018 at 20:31

Targeted by Black Cube in dirty tricks op against Iran deal ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElSp-S2suY

Comment by Antony on May 9, 2018 at 17:40

Trump kills Iran deal - who wins ? who loses ? ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt3ekSBuo9U

Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 9, 2018 at 16:30

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/05/08/soros-financed-group-...

87 years old, could live to be 100.

The only thing stopping Pakistan supplying nuclear bombs to Iran is that Pakistan is Sunni and Iran is Shia. though I suspect Iran already has all of the knowhow it needs to produce nuclear weapons. Secret underground facilities are untraceable.

Comment by Alan Lake on February 5, 2018 at 17:30
Comment by Alan Lake on June 4, 2017 at 16:35
  • How can a religion seize so much power in a country? Before Islamists come to power, they make sham promises to every faith and political party. Using charm, manipulation, and community infiltration, they give the impression that they will be defenders of minorities, the poor, and local politics. Once they are in power, when it is too late to stop them, anyone who does not comply with their narrow view of religion and politics will be eliminated under the name of God and Islam.

  • The authorities engaged in hate speech and allowed hate crimes to be committed with impunity against Baha'is, and imprisoned scores of Baha'is on trumped-up national security charges, imposed for peacefully practicing their religious beliefs. Allegations of torture of 24 Baha'is in Golestan Province were not investigated. The authorities forcibly closed down dozens of Baha'i-owned businesses and detained Baha'i students.

  • It is not an "Iran problem", it is an epidemic of hatred and violence that will continue to spread if something is not done to stop it.

They were quiet family, not politically minded, and they did not get involved in community unrest or gossip. Fear of people knocking on the door, or of a stranger showing up in the neighborhood with unknown intentions, drove them to withdraw from society. They were careful, so careful, that they barely mingled with anyone. They were our neighbors in Iran and trusted us enough to visit with us, until one day, they no longer did.

We checked on them out of concern. Their house was empty. There was no note, no goodbyes to anyone; they were just gone. Despite being our friends, they had never mentioned their last name. We had no way to track them down, to make sure they were safe and unharmed.

Then someone mentioned that they were from the Baha'i religious minority. He explained that the government had finally come for them. All of their fear and seclusion now had a reason. You could see how protective and careful the father was, how fearful and silent the mother was, and how their daughter would never venture far from home. I had thought their problem was just paranoia. In that moment, you see that you, too, have reason to be afraid.

Comment by Alan Lake on August 19, 2016 at 3:20

MORE MASS EXECUTIONS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM

Iran remains the world leader in executions in 2016.

August 17, 2016 - Dr. Majid Rafizadeh

The Iranian government is relying more and more on mass executions in order to control its citizens. Iranian officials used to keep their executions secret. However, over the last year since the nuclear agreement was reached, Iranian authorities have been showing no fear or concern when it comes to publicly announcing that they have mass-executed a group of people.

Iran is ranked the first in the world, followed by China, when it comes to hanging people.

The mullahs have started the month August by mass executing at least 25 people who are from a religious minority. Not only did Iran brag about executing these people, but officials also released some of the names of those executed on Tuesday, August 2, in Gohardasht prison in Karaj, northwest of Tehran.

Before executing these people, Iranian authorities tortured them to an extent that some of them lost their vision and hearing, some had heart attacks and kidney infections, and some become incredibly weak before being dragged to the execution site.

Before being executed, one of the prisoners pleaded and wrote to Ahmad Shaheed, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in Iran. In the letter, he pleaded: “I hope that I am tried like a human being, like an accused, in a just court, that I see my lawyer, that he had read my case, that my torturer is not besides my judge, that the judge is not angry and doesn’t say either you go from this Shiite country or you die, that the court is more than 5 minutes and that I am allowed to speak.”

Islamist clerics have charged these people with “enmity against Allah (God),” then convicted and sentenced them to death under Islamic Sharia law. This all occurred without fair trial, access to a lawyer, due process or medical treatments.

Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch, argued, “Iran’s mass execution of prisoners on August 2 at Rajai Shahr prison is a shameful low point in its human rights record.”

Iran has executed at least seven people a week since January 2016 and Iranian authorities are boasting about their execution. Whitson added, “With at least 230 executions since January 1, Iran is yet again the regional leader in executions but a laggard in implementing the so far illusory penal code reforms meant to bridge the gap with international standards…. It is shameful that Iran takes pride in the growing number of executions it carries out rather than being able to boast about its adherence to international fair trial standards…It is critically important to give everyone accused of a crime due process and fair trials, not least when their lives are at stake.”

Iranian leaders are also executing adolescents in the name of Islam. For example, two weeks ago, Hassan Afshar, 19, was hanged in Arak Prison in Iran's Markazi Province after the Iranian government charged and convicted him of "forced male-to-male anal intercourse" (‘lavat-e be onf’).

Afshar was sentenced soon after he was arrested. He was a 17-year-old high school student when he was arrested.   ...

According to a 2008 British Wikileaks documents, Iran had executed an average of 200 gays and lesbians every year since the establishment of the Islamic Republic of Iran to 2008.   ...

Finally, the major question to ask is: where are the human rights organizations, LGBT groups, liberals and the Obama administration when it comes to condemning these egregious human rights abuses committed by the authoritarian and theocratic regime of Iran?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/263819/more-mass-executions-name-is...

Comment by Alan Lake on May 13, 2016 at 2:26

 If the order to limit troop numbers and deploy only the most elite forces were reversed, Hajj Mehdi said, Basij and other IRGC soldiers would “go by the millions.”

Iran Has More Volunteers for the Syrian War Than It Knows What to Do With
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-more-volunteers-syrian-war-21434818...

So what do the Guardian's retards imagine will happen, if we ever come up against some of these millions? Are all our non-Muslim OAPs going to enlist? The difference in world view and level of commitment is palpable.

What part is it of this threat, that they do not get?

Comment by Antony on March 10, 2016 at 12:38
Comment by Antony on February 8, 2016 at 20:57

Satellite images of Iranian military base ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsBoQMKebWU&feature=em-uploadem...

 

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1. SP Freedom of Speech
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