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It takes a nation to protect the nation



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Key Info on Iraq

Forget all the lies about 1 million Iraqis killed by the Americans.

The war to liberate Iraq itself cost about 2000 Iraqi lives - its not clear how many of those are Iraqi troops.  Since then, about 100,000 Iraqis have died, nearly all due to internecine violence, and collateral damage as insurgents try kill US troops. (Muslim insurgents don't care how many Iraqis they kill as long as they can disrupt the American attempts to create a democratic state in Iraq). All the data you need is here:

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 4, 2021 at 10:12

Rhetorical question: Could Islam/Mohammed be blamed for this addiction to murder that muslims have?

Comment by Alan Lake on December 4, 2021 at 0:32
Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 5, 2020 at 10:34

One thing Muslims all agree about is the We are the enemy.Though they have their internal conflicts they will cooperate against the common foe. We must never forget that the the fundamental objective of Islam is to make all of the world Muslim. Never trust a Muslim, they are all our enemies and for as long as Islam exists they will plot and scheme and murder us.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on January 4, 2020 at 21:14

Iranian-backed Kataib Hezbollah group issued a warning to Iraqi security forces to "stay clear of American bases by a distance not less [than] 1,000m (0.6 miles) starting Sunday evening"

So who actually controls Iraq? The Iraqi Government appear to be Iranian puppets. Their rhetoric is clearly also coming from the Iranian regime as they look to attempt to push the US out of Iraq and then they can have dominance over Iraq.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 12, 2019 at 12:14
Deliberate crop burning blamed on ISIS remnants compounds misery in war torn Iraq and Syria.

Comment by Alan Lake on February 21, 2018 at 1:02

German teen ‘ISIS bride’ sentenced to 6 years in jail - reports

Now wait for all the howls of protest from the kuffar wimps of the West, about infringing her human rights, and the need to get her back to Germany to be fed and clothed by its welfare system for the rest of her life.

Comment by Alan Lake on August 29, 2017 at 14:44

Footage of German 16yo ‘ISIS bride’ capture emerges online (VIDEO) — RT News

Comment by Antony on June 11, 2017 at 17:23
Comment by Alan Lake on June 10, 2017 at 15:06

Anybody in the liberal media remember Iraq?  And how we were going to free them from Saddam and give them the gifts of democracy and freedom?

Twin ISIS suicide bombings kill at least 30, injure up to 40 in Iraq (GRAPHIC VIDEO)

This is coming soon to a London town near you.  ISIS aren't stupid.  They know that if they blow up enough stuff, cut enough throats, burn enough people alive, and terrorise enough others, that the system will gradually collapse, and the people will side with the strongest gang.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 31, 2017 at 20:54

Our leaders should fly to Iraq and explain to them that these incident will only draw them together and make them stronger.

31 killed in twin Baghdad car bomb attacks (VIDEOS)


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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