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Forget all the lies about 1 million Iraqis killed by the Americans.

The war to liberate Iraq itself cost about 2000 Iraqi lives - its not clear how many of those are Iraqi troops.  Since then, about 100,000 Iraqis have died, nearly all due to internecine violence, and collateral damage as insurgents try kill US troops. (Muslim insurgents don't care how many Iraqis they kill as long as they can disrupt the American attempts to create a democratic state in Iraq). All the data you need is here:
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
http://icasualties.org/Iraq/IraqiDeaths.aspx

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Comment by Alan Lake on May 22, 2015 at 0:07

We’re Still Dumbing Down the Iraq War

The truth about the danger of Saddam Hussein and why we went into Iraq.

by Bruce S. Thornton // FrontPage Magazine

Comment by Alan Lake on May 21, 2015 at 6:19

Linnea cont.:

Saddam also cultivated his own terrorist army known as the Fedayeen Saddam which was created in 1995 under the leadership of his raping sadist son Uday. These men were to carry out suicide raids and terror bombings at Saddam’s will. Overwhelmingly these were the main force behind the insurgency after the 2003 invasion along with about 5000 to 10,000 plus foreign fighters of which 60% did the dirty work. We see this today with ISIS who make most of the foreign fighters do the fighting and dying not the Iraqi members of ISIS. See a pattern yet? In 2007 25,000 inmates were in American detention centers in Iraq. Of those, only about 290, or some 1.2 percent, were foreigners. Which means they were mostly being killed on the battlefield or fleeing the country.

The Fedayeen Saddam man power stood between 30,000 to 40,000 members and foreign fighters were no more a little more than 5000. The Iraqi insurgency at its max had about 30,000 fighters. Remember, several thousand Fedayeen Saddam fighters were most likely killed during the initial invasion or some just ran. They were replaced with outsiders. By the end of the surge we killed almost 20,000 insurgents in total.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq ( along with the insurgency ) was decimated.

In the end removing our forces from Iraq in 2012 will go down as the reason alone Iraq fell to the barbarians at the gate. As we collectively are about the witness the sacking of Baghdad, lets never forget Iraq was a great success by 2012. A nation was moved from the sadistic leadership of a genocidal mass murderer to a new democracy. But I think Obama in the end understood that only aided the camp of his political enemies. I’m sure he saw it to his political advantage to allow Iraq to fall to the wolves and point the finger at 2003.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 21, 2015 at 6:19

A brilliant comment from Linnea to add to Victor Hanson's analysis of the reasons for toppling Saddam.

It’s sad seeing so many people on the right begin to implode due to the relentless pressure placed on them by the Left regarding the invasion of Iraq. 99% of the Senate voted to approve the removal of Saddam fulfilling the Clinton mandate the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act.

Saddam ignited two brutal wars, committed three separate genocides ( the Kurds, Marsh Arabs and the Shia of the south ) and was directly culpable for three of the largest and most destructive eco-terrorist attacks the world has even known. Those being the 600 plus oil wells he set on fire during the Gulf War which burned for seven months spewing poison into the environment on a cataclysmic scale, the total destruction of the central marshlands of Iraq in his attempt to efface the Marsh Arab population. Over 7,500 square miles of marshland was wiped out and Saddam keeping his threat to spill crude oil from Kuwait’s reserves into the Persian Gulf. He followed through on that promise in late January 1991 by spilling between 4,000,000 to 6,000,000 barrels into the Persian Gulf. All three acts of eco-terror were conducted without any protest from environmental movements.

As Mr. Hanson mentioned above Saddam’s refusal to follow the agreements for the cease fire in 1991 for Saddam to remain in power were long ago trashed by his regime. The UN also has a mandate in its own charter to stop genocide (CPPCG ) which gave the UN every right to remove Saddam from power. But lets investigate deeper as to the true nature of the regime under Saddam. Was it really a secular entity crushing Islamist movements?

Saddam’s Iraq was secular for a few decades, but as time passed and his regime became more sadistic and unstable he began to caress radical Islam into his own structure of power. In 1991 Saddam placed “Allahu Akbar” on the national flag and began a campaign to encourage his high ranking officers and other aspects of his regime to embrace Islam. This was a very onerous turn and something many overlook today as to the leadership of ISIS who’s military arm is run by former Saddam generals and officers. Saddam began to openly finance suicide bombers against Israel, reached out to al Qaeda figures in the Sudan and allowed Ansar al Islam to operate in Iraq murdering the Kurdish leadership. When Ansar al Islam terrorists were arrested after the 2003 invasion, we discovered their passports were all stamped with Iraqi visas! Not only did Saddam know they were in Iraq, but he made it legal as well. Of course Saddam also allowed al-Qaeda’s Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to operate in Iraq long before Bush invaded in 2003. The U.S. 2006 Senate Report on Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq reported that Al-Zarqawi was in Baghdad from May until late November 2002. By March 2003 according to British intelligence, Zarqawi’s network had set up sleeper cells in Baghdad to resist an expected U.S. occupation of Iraq. See a connection yet? I sure do….Some of the earliest truck bomb attacks by the “insurgents” in Baghdad were traced back to Iraqi intelligence vehicles.

Comment by Danny Jeffrey on May 21, 2015 at 4:55

Public opinion veers with every change in current conditions in Iraq.

And when public opinion looks bad to Obama he can always find someone to blame.

Obama Demands Congress Assume Responsibility for War on ISIS

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/obama-demands-congress...

Comment by Alan Lake on May 21, 2015 at 4:21

Another excellent analysis by Prof. Hanson:

http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/?p=8428

The news of Saddam's attempted assasination of President Bush was a surprise to me.  Wouldn't that alone have been enough justification for going in, and leave all the rest out of it?

George H. W. Bush

  • April 13, 1993: Fourteen men believed to be working for Saddam Hussein smuggled bombs into Kuwait to assassinate former president Bush by a car bomb during his visit to Kuwait University several months after he had left office.[38] The plot was foiled when Kuwaiti officials found the bomb and arrested the suspected assassins. Two of the suspects, Wali Abdelhadi Ghazali and Raad Abdel-Amir al-Assadi, retracted their confessions at the trial, claiming that they were coerced.[39] Bush had left office in January 1993. The Iraqi Intelligence Service, particularly Directorate 14, was proved to be behind the plot.[40]
Comment by Alan Lake on October 31, 2014 at 23:35

This article has interesting video footage of apache attacks as part of the operation to take control of Bagdad in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike

Those who discount the negative security repercussions of the Wikileaks saga are in denial.  When I watch this video I see a legitimate military operation in the fog of war.  But when a Muslim watches it, imagine what he thinks.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 1, 2014 at 6:12

Going back to the 2nd Iraq war:

The Iraq War Protesters Bussed In To Save Baghdad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_Wx7fY4zw&feature=youtu.be

Watch how these typical UAF types first support Saddam Hussein (the genocidal mass murderer, remember?), then end up being used as human shields to protect the Iraqi army - and not liking it.  

You can skip to the ending part at 34mins to see the full farce played out - where the original busload is kicked out of Baghdad by an Iraqi woman shouting "get out of here you piece of shit". Their places are taken by newcomers, who, refusing to listen to the original organiser, end up being used as human shields for the Iraqi army - and liking it.

Comment by Alan Lake on August 28, 2014 at 20:27
Comment by Danny Jeffrey on July 24, 2014 at 10:17
Comment by Antony on July 14, 2014 at 10:10

Shiite Militant heroes bravely fight ISIS ; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690701/Gunmen-slaughter-25... - er,..oh... sorry, they just killed 25 defenceless women - to think Obama has sent 300 military advisers to help these pieces of shiite, we should pull out and let them slug it out in Baghdad with IS , just one set of arseholes against another set of arseholes - not worth grazing our troops knees over or spending another dollar on.

 

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