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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article147742739...
A Girl Got Banned From A Chess Competition For Being "Too Seductive"
I think her being a 12 year old virgin is enough to distract any muslim male.
Coming soon to your country: Islamic 'Free Speech'.
Malaysia blocks anti-government rally organiser website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34070655
Hi Paul
No it is not a ploy, Both Indonesia and Malaysia are very restrictive In who they let in. It is more to do with nationalism and protectivism than to do with Islam.
I do not know so much about Malaysia, but Though Indonesia has 90% muslims, it is still secular There is a great struggle between the secularists and islamists.
The Muslim population of Indonesia is 90%, in Malaysia it is 60%, Thailand 6%, Australia 2%, France 8%, Germany 5%, UK 5%, US 1%.
It would be logical that Muslims accept Muslim refugees but they are not going to.
Europe, America and Australia have to say no to Muslim refugees, for obvious reasons. With the European population of Muslims at at least 6% it will not be long before some european countries reach a point where islamification is inevitable.
We are not hearing about the Muslim countries that are refusing to help refugees because the rules that the media have laid down classify criticism of Muslims and Islam as racist and islamophobic. Therefore the media can say nothing negative about Islam or Muslims. ISIS of course are not real Muslims and have betrayed Islam, so can be labelled criminal and condemned.
"We don't want them to come here," Deputy Minister Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar, who oversees immigration, said. "We are not prepared to accept that number coming into our shores and those people who are already in, we are sending them home anyway."
No this is not a kufar speaking
Malaysia's announcement follows a similar declaration by the Indonesian government.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/05/13/Malaysia-tells-bo...
Churchill got it just about right.
"... there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live"
In their own countries they live in ignorant squalor. When they come to our countries they become dependent on us economically because they are dysfunctional. Envy causes them to hate our success and want to destroy us.
Free secular democracies encourage thought, inventiveness and enterprise. Islam by strictly regulating all thought and behaviour produces retrogressive societies.
Muslim culture should not be allowed to establish itself in any non-Muslim country.
Malaysia is only recently a majority muslim country. I'm informed that muslims pay lower taxes (indirect jizya). Institutions discriminate against kafirs systematically.
Chinese constitute 30% of the population, but pay 90% of the taxes. That's the typical Jizya exploitation by the Muslim master race, which we will eventually suffer from in the UK - given that the dumb kaffir won't wake up.
"I was arrested on the 17th February 2014 at my home in Malaysia under the Malaysian penal code seditious and hatred speech act for criticising Islam and Malay Muslims and placed in police detention for 5 days in Shah Alam police station .I was Intentionally placed in a roaches infested cell ,slept in the concrete floor,ate tainted food and latter vomited and discharge blood after consuming the food. No baths were allowed and given smelly, old and ripped cloths with holes The plaintiff solicitor name Aidil managed the case from the legal firm Rahim,Aidil & Partners. My laptop and phone were confiscated by the police. Hence the no updated statues on my fb pages.
"My conclusion Muslim countries treatment of Jews and Christians are those like an animal and a beggar on the street. Enclosed the lawyer invoice for my blasphemy charge against Islam." - Just copied from Facebook, Mr Samuel
Joe,
Isn't Shiva from Malaysia... or is it Indonesia?
I only meant an economic mess. It seems that things are getting worse, politically and socially, in Malaysia. And, if Islam is applied more to the economy, then that will end up in a mess too. Perhaps it's the Chinese who've saved Malaysia, I'm not sure, to be honest.
Joe 20
PAM
"Those few that aren’t in such a mess, including Malaysia"
A distant relative of mine wrote the Malaysian constitution. Another relative was there at the time, and warned us in the 70s of what islam would do to the west, based on her decades seeing what it did in Malaysia.
Malaysia is only recently a majority muslim country. I'm informed that muslims pay lower taxes (indirect jizya). Institutions discriminate against kafirs systematically. Any young kafir who can, leaves Malaysia (hence loads chinese Malaysians studying in US/UK/Oz).
What Brunei is doing now (death for gays), Malaysia will be doing within 30 years. Brunei has massive oil wealth. Watch Malaysia go down the tubes too.
I'm certain it is Malaysia which is covertly behind the genocide against Buddhists in Thailand.
I visited Singapore twice, and being gay, one can slot into the (nether world) of a society within hours. I used to ask Singaporean gays their views on Malaysia, war,e etc. They have the most demanding national service of any country (even gays do military service, every few months, up to about the age of 50).
When asked why they did this: "because we have Malaysia for a neighbour".
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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