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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Muslims: 12% of London's population (supposedly) 27% of London's prison population.…"

Joe replied Apr 29, 2014 to Collected Statistics on Muslims in Prison

6 Mar 11, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"MI5 have always been fairly tardy about updating this list of "international terrori…"

Joe replied Apr 28, 2014 to MI5's List of British Terrorists Since 2001

9 Aug 6, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

"2011 Census underestimates muslim population by as much as 100% http://www.huffingto…"

Joe replied Mar 6, 2014 to UK: Official population count to be scrapped after more than 200 years

11 Dec 28, 2014
Reply by paul collings

"So, there were 500,000 more eastern Europeans in Britain than the Census said.  If i…"

Joe replied Mar 6, 2014 to UK: Official population count to be scrapped after more than 200 years

11 Dec 28, 2014
Reply by paul collings

"Muslims are 35% of the Italian prison population. http://halalporkshop.blogspot.co.u…"

Joe replied Feb 12, 2014 to Collected Statistics on Muslims in Prison

6 Mar 11, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

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Joe replied Aug 7, 2013 to UK: Official population count to be scrapped after more than 200 years

11 Dec 28, 2014
Reply by paul collings

"There's basically an average of 25 muslims convicted of terrorism in the UK every 12…"

Joe replied May 10, 2013 to MI5's List of British Terrorists Since 2001

9 Aug 6, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

"This document has now moved on the MI5 website.  Here's the new location:  https://w…"

Joe replied May 9, 2013 to MI5's List of British Terrorists Since 2001

9 Aug 6, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

"Andrew McCarthy & Andrew Bostom show how overt the Pew bias is.  Their "extensiv…"

Joe replied May 2, 2013 to The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society

4 May 3, 2013
Reply by Antony

"Muslims and their neo-fascist leftist allies often reject surveys, saying that 1,000…"

Joe replied Dec 15, 2012 to Attitudes to Homosexuality: 2 Surveys Contrasting Muslims with Christians

5 May 23, 2014
Reply by Alan Lake

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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