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Nice work by Mossad: Hamas assassination

Hamas commander assassinated in Dubai by eleven covert operatives: "Dubai, United Arab Emirates (CNN) -- Dubai authorities issued an inter…

Started by John Carlson

1 Feb 18, 2010
Reply by brad pitt

Fitzgerald: Dubai, or Rodeo Drive on Stilts

Started by shiva

3 Feb 10, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

Iraq - Genocide against the Sabian Mandeans

Crime of circumcision: genocide against the Sabian Mandaeans of Iraq by Sami AlDeeb The Mandaeans, also known by the name of Sabians, conf…

Started by Indoeuropean

1 Jan 11, 2010
Reply by Kinana

Khomeini's Teachings on sex with infants and animals

Khomeini's Teachings on sex with infants and animals Islamic Teachings on sex with infants: "A man can have sexual pleasure from a child…

Started by Herman Van Keer

1 Dec 17, 2009
Reply by Indoeuropean

Islamic world - Limitation, Oppression and Persecution of Christians

Started by Indoeuropean

0 Dec 10, 2009

Crusades Against Jihad (1095 - 1297)

Differences between the Saracens (Jihadis) and the Crusaders Today we see the terrorists referring to the American and British soldiers in…

Started by Charles Martel

5 Nov 7, 2009

Jihad against the Arabs Part2

The fiction of there being moderate Muslims and that an allah helps them in war As the war on Terror progresses, there is an increasing cl…

Started by Charles Martel

0 Oct 1, 2009

Jihad against the Arabs Part1

How the Jihad originated 1400 years back and how the nature and idol-worshipping pre Muslim Arabs were the first nation to be traumatized b…

Started by Charles Martel

9 Oct 1, 2009
Reply by Charles Martel


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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