It takes a nation to protect the nation
Military Victims of Kuffarphobia
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This room is to help protect Soldiers rights, who are vulnerable to particular forms of abuse by the government, by acts of both commission and omission.
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Many state employees are victims of abuse by modern Western governments which repudiate former values of discipline and respect for authority. So Teachers, Police and Firemen all receive unpunished abuse from students and the public.
The position of the military is even worse however, in that they cannot even resign their position, they can only buy themselves out. Hence this room is to focus on their particularly vulnerable position.
Discussion Forum
Government places refugee needs above those of ex-army
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 1, 2016. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Trial of the killers of Lee Rigby
Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Feb 27, 2014. 18 Replies 0 Likes
UK: 2 Former soldiers jailed for arson attack on mosque - Channel 4
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 22, 2013. 4 Replies 0 Likes
The Day My War Ended - by Don Gomez at NYT
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 22, 2013. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Afghanistan: More British troops killed by Afghan allies: followed by a soldier's suicide
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 5, 2013. 1 Reply 0 Likes
UK: SAS war hero jailed for 18 months for booking error
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Nov 18, 2012. 3 Replies 0 Likes
US: Major Nidal Hasan - the Fort Hood Massacre
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 18, 2012. 1 Reply 0 Likes
US: Another Islamist Soldier Turns Terrorist in Texas - by Daniel Pipes
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 18, 2012. 1 Reply 0 Likes
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Comment by Antony on January 10, 2018 at 10:15 -
NATO's fraudulent war on behalf of women ; http://www.unz.com/article/natos-fraudulent-war-on-behalf-of-women/
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 2, 2018 at 9:00 -
Bring back the death penalty for treason and execute anyone that has fought for or supported ISIS.
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Comment by Antony on January 2, 2018 at 8:33
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USA gives Israel green light for assassination ; https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-01/us-intelligence-reportedl... - so basically the Israelis will be murdering someone who fought against ISIS & Al Queda in Syria...
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Comment by Antony on December 27, 2017 at 14:18
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Islamists use portable surface to air missile to shoot down Syrian plane ; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-27/chilling-footage-shows-mil... ; the question is, was this supplied by the West ? - it is bad enough that it was used to attack forces fighting ISIS,Al Queda etc, but this sort of weapon could also be used for attacking civilian airplanes in the West. Those who led us into the wars in Iraq,Libya and Syria must be tried for treachery at a Nuremberg type trial and publicly executed.
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Comment by Antony on December 25, 2017 at 13:50
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Pakistan kills Indian troops ; http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-24/pakistan-opens-fire-along-...
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 21, 2017 at 9:30
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Non-violent resistance to a violent aggessor is suicide.
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 21, 2017 at 9:28
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National Action Ban.
Is it illegal to be a raciist? Is it illegal to hate? Is it illegal to hate Jews, homosexuals, Muslims, blacks or whites.
I say no, you can disapprove of or hate anything that you choose. That is your right, we all hate something.
It should not be illegal to incite to hatred.
What should be illegal is to incite to violence, or to be criminally violent. Everything else is the right to have and to voice an opinion. The only things that should be illegal and punishable are the crimes described under the common laws that protect life and property.
Hate-crime laws are unnecessary. Everyone has a right to hate, what they do not have a right to do is to physically harm with intent another human being.
Has National Action incited to violence or intentionally physically harmed someone, other than in self-defence?
-The group posted a message, which read: "Our thoughts go out to Thomas Mair #Britain-First #JoCoxMP' and, 'Don't let this man's sacrifice go in vain. #JoCox would have filled Yorkshire with more subhumans."-
They approved of this murder. That was wrong.
Just as every Muslim or islamic organsation that approves of murder is wrong.
The threat from the far-right in Britain is insignificant, but justified by the massive influx of aliens into our homeland. It is defence.
The threat from Muslims is a hostile invasion and a very clear and present danger to our homeland. It is aggession.
The far-right are the resistance, the immigrants are the invaders.
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Comment by Antony on September 20, 2017 at 17:08
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National Action - whilst being a bunch of LARPers - were banned as a terrorist organisation.... despite not being terrorists ! - I doubt we will ever find out the truth as to why they were banned, but its a fairly safe bet that some influential cabal was pulling the strings behind the scenes.
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on September 20, 2017 at 16:22
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-“there was no threat to the public’s safety,” a police spokesman added.”-
Arrested for being members of a patriotic movement (that probably was run by the “intelligence” services) and because they might have been provoked into becoming terrorists at some point in the future.
“concerned with terrorism.”
Listen up security forces, I support any far-right-racist-white-nationalist-patriotic group that has been formed with the intention of defending my Homeland, the homeland that the British government has betrayed with it's wishywashy immigration policies and acceptance of Islam.
We are the ones suffering the imported crime and terror. The National Action has not carried out even one single terrorist attack, while the Muslims have carried out many. Most of the crime and violence is not being done by the native British. If anyone should be arrested it is the leaders past and present that have allowed and defended mass-immigration.
I doubt that I will become a terrorist but who can predict the future? The security forces apparently can.
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Comment by Alan Lake on September 20, 2017 at 0:46 -
Serving UK soldiers among 4 arrested over neo-Nazi terrorism links
Published time: 5 Sep, 2017 10:05
Serving British soldiers are among those arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences as alleged members of the neo-Nazi group National Action.
The accused – a 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old man from Powys, a 24-year-old from Ipswich and a 24-year-old from Northampton – were held on Tuesday by the West Midlands police, who say they have been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences.“We can confirm that a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act for being associated with a proscribed far right group," an Army spokesperson said.
"These arrests are the consequence of a Home Office Police Force led operation supported by the Army. This is now the subject of a civilian police investigation and it would be inappropriate to comment further."
The men were arrested by police with the collaboration of counter-terrorism units from the West Midlands, Wales and the East Midlands.
A police spokesman said they “have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000; namely on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed organization (National Action) contrary to sec 11 of the Terrorism Act.”
READ MORE: Far-right BNP says Britain should brace itself for Charlottesville-style clashes
“The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led; there was no threat to the public’s safety,” a police spokesman added.
National Action became the first far-right extremist group to be proscribed last year in the UK.
Home Secretary Amber Rudd decided back in December 2016 following an assessment that the group is “concerned with terrorism.”
The Home Secretary’s decision to ban the far-right group, which had branches across the UK, came amid reports from the government’s counter-extremism programme, Channel, that far-right radicalization accounted for a quarter of the cases it was handling.
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Mission Overview
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
The 4 Freedoms
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
- Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"
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