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Kuffarphobia in Pakistan & Bangladesh

पाकिस्तान के ईसाइयों के लिए, वर्तमान में इस्लामी कट्टरपंथियों से गहन हिंसा और उत्पीड़न पीड़ित

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For Pakistani Christians, currently suffering intense violence and persecution from Islamic fundamentalists.  Feel free to write in Urdu.

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Comment by Alan Lake on November 18, 2018 at 19:14

Christians dragged out of cars and beaten, haunted with fear as Asia Bibi case tears Pakistan apart

by Stoyan Zaimov ,Christian Post Reporter| Nov 13, 2018

Islamic protesters against Asia Bibi's freedom take the streets in Pakistan on November 1, 2018. | (Screenshot: YouTube/TRT World)

Christians have been dragged out of their cars and beaten, and said they are "haunted" with fear of Islamic radicals as the blasphemy case of Christian mother Asia Bibi tears Pakistan apart.

Romana Bashir, a Christian rights activist in Islamabad, said in an interview with CNN that blasphemy laws have been used to target followers of Christ in the Muslim country for years, but the fallout of Bibi's acquittal has been truly severe.

Hardliners have blocked the streets, burned cars, and rioted through cities, angry at what they perceive to be the Pakistan Supreme Court's giving in to pressure by deciding to free the Christian mother, instead of confirming her 2010 death sentence.

Peter Jacob, the executive director for the Center for Social Justice in Lahore, said that there have been cases where rioters have asked people in cars to tell them their religion. If they were found to be Christian, "they were taken out of their cars and beaten up."

He warned that "the mental and psychological scars" that the Christian community are suffering will endure in the "current climate of fear."

Large-scale Islamic radical attacks in Pakistan have decreased in the past year, though some church-going believers, such as those at St. Joseph's Cathedral in Rawalpindi, have admitted that they are constantly having to be careful.

One gatekeeper at St Joseph, who didn't wish to share his name, said that he is "grateful for the presence of the military close to the church," but that the sense of fear has "begun to haunt him" since Bibi's acquittal.

Christians face discrimination in Pakistan in a variety of different ways, such as being offered only low-skilled jobs and kept at the bottom of society.

The blasphemy laws, which, such as in Bibi's case, can put believers on death row even if they claim to be innocent, create a whole new dimension of terror, Bashir explained. She said that one of the biggest problems is that when non-Muslims are accused of blasphemy, "the entire community is branded and labeled with the crime."

"When you are accused you cannot live in the same place, your family is under threat, your entire locality is under threat, you must run, you must leave everything you love behind. The impact is very severe," she explained.

Bashir, who in 2012 was appointed by Pope Benedict XVI to serve as adviser for the Commission for Religious Relations with Muslims, said that progress in terms of trust between Muslim leaders and Christians is being broken apart due to the blasphemy controversy.

"People on both sides are now afraid to come forth, there is no middle ground for discussion, there is no air for reconciliation, it's like the bridges of harmony have been burnt in the aftermath of acquittal," she said.

Bibi's fate meanwhile remains uncertain, with the Christian mother of five not yet allowed to leave Pakistan, due to the pressure hardliners are putting on the government.

Several Western countries have said that they are looking into ways of helping Bibi and her family, though it is not yet clear who will offer her asylum.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 17, 2017 at 12:50

Muslims need protection from themselves, lol.

Comment by Kinana on November 16, 2017 at 14:45

I almost put this in the humour room.

He made his bed and now he does not want to lie in it.

But would the non-Muslims have any less reason to kill him?

Comment by Alan Lake on October 16, 2017 at 15:26
This terrorist country is our partner against terrorism. This lawless country is where we import thugs from, to rape and groom the children of Rotherham. This disrespectable country, has nuclear tipped missiles.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 16, 2017 at 9:35

How many Pakistanis are there in Britain practicing their culture?

As none of them have any real respect for our laws and customs, you could rightly claim that they are all a bunch of criminals. Compared to the natives that mostly respect the law. 

From the prosecutions I have noticed reported in the press and from my personal encounters I can say: false bankruptcies, dirty restaurants closed then re-opened elsewhere, organised buying and selling of smuggler goods, theft, welfare fraud, tax evasion, assault and robbery, murder and rape, sexual and physical abuse of minors(more than the natives), wife beating, honour killings, terror bombing and planning attempts, a hostile attitude from the mosques and muslims in general, places not safe to be in. All in all cheating and disrespect that they among themselves find totally justifiable. Now, why should we be required to accept this?

Most of this was non-existent 50 years ago.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 16, 2017 at 3:22

Imam Divorces Eighth wife After she Catches him red-Handed with Minor Inside Mosque

7Oct 12, 2017Source:

An imam from Punjab has divorced his eighth wife after she caught him red-handed sodomizing a minor inside the mosque in Burewala city of Punjab.

Mussarat Bibi, who hails from neighboring Habib Colony, was married to Qari Muhammad Aslam some 15 years ago.

Aslam is an imam at Gulshan Raza Town mosque and an Arabic teacher at the city’s Govt. MC Model High School.

Mussarat told the media that she was his fifth wife, but Aslam “who can’t overcome his lust for sex” married two more women without her consent under the pretext of “giving them shelter”.

Both the other women were divorced by Aslam, but Mussarat stayed with him due to her poor finances.

Two months ago, however, she caught him red-handed while sodomizing a madrassa student inside the mosque where Aslam teaches. She was badly beaten by the imam who threatened her to keep her mouth shut over the sexual abuse.

Although the woman kept mum about the immoral act, Aslam divorced her five days later.

Mussarat says she reached Model Town Police Station and filed a complaint against him, but no legal action has been taken so far.

She further maintains that Aslam is involved in usury (Ribah or Sood which is strictly prohibited in Islam); and has made millions with several properties in the city.

In his defense, Qari Aslam stated that he did not carry out any unIslamic acts by marrying multiple women because “Islam allows a man to marry as many wives as he can afford.”

Aslam told the media that he had divorced Mussarat for other reasons: “she blackmailed me and wanted to occupy my property”.

He also denied sodomizing a minor and other allegations.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 15, 2017 at 16:38

Report: Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal could become the world’s third-biggest.

It is only a matter of time before islamists get their finger on the nuclear button and push it. There has to be a connection between Pakistan and Iran on nuclear arms developement.

Comment by Alan Lake on October 15, 2017 at 15:29
This terrorist country is our partner against terrorism. This lawless country is where we import thugs from, to rape and groom the children of Rotherham. This disrespectable country, has nuclear tipped missiles.
Comment by Kinana on October 15, 2017 at 14:54

Muslims doing what they do.  These Christians (and all non-Muslims) must be 'made to feel subdued', i.e. Terrorised (Quran 9:29)

Watch: Pakistani Muslims burn and destroy Christian Church in Mardan, Pakistan.

Comment by Kinana on June 13, 2017 at 22:33

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