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Kuffarphobia in Pakistan & Bangladesh


Kuffarphobia in Pakistan & Bangladesh

पाकिस्तान के ईसाइयों के लिए, वर्तमान में इस्लामी कट्टरपंथियों से गहन हिंसा और उत्पीड़न पीड़ित

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For Pakistani Christians, currently suffering intense violence and persecution from Islamic fundamentalists.  Feel free to write in Urdu.

Discussion Forum

Asia Bibi

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Kinana Feb 18, 2020. 15 Replies

Pakistan: Failed State

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Joe Jan 24, 2015. 3 Replies

Kill Me Here

Started by shiva May 24, 2012. 0 Replies

Burial of burned alive Christian (Wife raped)

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Kinana Mar 31, 2011. 3 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on August 3, 2016 at 16:51
Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 4, 2016 at 16:55

“Educated and well-off, Dhaka attackers defy usual profile”

“Some had come from privileged backgrounds, had grown up loved and were educated in top schools. They had bright futures.”

“The young men, armed with knives, bombs and automatic firearms, engaged in a gun battle with police, killing two and wounding more, then seized a popular restaurant in a Dhaka neighborhood on Friday night and held some 35 people hostage. Over the next few hours, they would kill 20 of their captives — including nine Italians, seven Japanese, an Indian teenager and three students at American universities. A witness said some victims were tortured when they could not recite verses from the Quran.”

It is impossible to profile a muslim terrorist, they can come from any background and from anywhere. What they do have in common is that they are muslims and obey the teachings of Mohammed. Mohammed’s message is simple, kill anyone that is not a true muslim.

Comment by Antony on March 29, 2016 at 15:39
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 7, 2016 at 11:57
Comment by Alan Lake on January 1, 2016 at 18:29

It must be about time we increased our foreign aid and charitable donations to them.  With all that rocket fuel required, they may not have any left for burning Christians alive.  After all, we wouldn't want to be accused of being mean, would we?

Pakistan test-fires its most advanced nuclear-capable ballistic missile

Comment by Alan Lake on June 10, 2015 at 20:40

Malala Yousafzai’s attackers secretly released by Pakistani court

Comment by Antony on February 2, 2015 at 16:25

Pakistan - failed state or clever gambler?

Comment by Alan Lake on December 10, 2014 at 19:09

It looks like we aren't the only ones that don't approve of cousin marriages:

Pakistan family feud ends in massacre | Video |

Seriously though, is this the kind of culture that you want to import into a genteel English society?  Is it any wonder tens of thousands of our young girls have been pimped and raped?

Comment by Alan Lake on December 9, 2014 at 12:34

Polio vaccinator shot dead in Pakistan


Gunmen on Tuesday killed a member of a polio vaccination team in Pakistan, as Taliban insurgents claimed the killing of two policemen assigned to protect an immunisation team the day before.

Tuesday’s attack—the latest of many on the teams—occurred in a residential area of Faisalabad district in Punjab province, where workers were immunising children on the second day of an anti-polio drive.

The victim was Muhammad Sarfaraz, 40 a schoolteacher working as a volunteer in the campaign, senior police official Ali Waseem told AFP.

“Gunmen on a motorcycle fired six shots and he died on the spot,” Waseem said.

Comment by Alan Lake on September 9, 2014 at 2:36

LAHORE: National Commission for Justice and Peace (NCJP) has conducted a content analysis of the revised curriculum of Punjab and Sindh textbooks for 2012-2013 for inclusion of biased and discriminatory content against religions other than Islam.

The findings reveal excessive use of the words Hindu, Christian and Jew while discussing the history of Pakistan and Islamic Studies, which portray the said faiths in a negative light.

For example, an Islamic Studies book of Sindh board for class 5, in a chapter on Eid (religious festivals), includes a line saying, “People of other religions usually stay busy in useless activities during their religious festivals. There is no concept of God or submission among them.”

The chapter “Pakistan, an Islamic State” in the same textbook of Punjab board includes this line: “Hindus harmed Muslims in every way.”

The content analysis has been published in Urdu to generate a debate on how the inclusion of discriminatory content in curriculum sows seeds of hatred, and to ensure that the review reaches maximum people.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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