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A PORTUGESE cardinal has warned Roman Catholic women against marrying Muslim men.


"Be careful with love. Think twice before marrying a Muslim, think seriously because it brings loads of hassle  - and even Allah can't say where all that will end,'' Jose Policarpo, the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon, said during a public debate.

"When you recognise what a young European of Christian upbringing is subjected to, given Muslim attitudes to women, the first time she goes to their countries, we can imagine what that entails.

"You can only dialogue with someone who is willing to dialogue. With our Muslim brothers, for example, dialogue is very difficult,'' he said.

"We have taken the first steps, but it's extremely difficult - because for them, their truth is the only way.''

Around 40,000 Muslims live in Portugal, according to Lisbon's Islamic community leaders - who have yet to react to the cardinal's remarks. 


Source: The Australian News (English), h/t Weasel Zippers

Tags: Zcaste, Zchristian, Zportugal, Zwomen

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'Lisbon's Islamic community leaders - who have yet to react to the cardinal's remarks.'

 

it would be good if you can post their reaction when it happens.

 

this is so fundamental to society and how the two belief systems understand the basic unit of society.  non-muslim women need to be prepared more fully before they enter into a marriage with a Muslim.  Christian churches should be very very clear about their teachings and point out the differences of perceptions between belief systems and how each encourages certain behaviours.

This is sooo good.  Would that the whole church takes up this message.  Non-Muslim women must be taught just exactly what a 'marriage' in Islam means.

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