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It takes a nation to protect the nation

As many of you will know, 19 of the largest muslim organisations in the UK support the Caliphate.  Hizb ut Tahrir can get 10,000 to a conference.

How do the muslim reformists fare?

Here's an advertisement at Harry's Place of an appeal for readers to fund muslim secularists to attend a conference in London:

Readers might like to consider contributing to this appeal to support overseas speakers traveling to this weekend’s sec...

Consider what this means:

There are so few muslim reformists in the UK (out of 2 million muslims, and 1000s of muslim organisations) that the muslims who are to attend this conference are coming from abroad.  Morover, whilst there are untold £billions sloshing around muslim organisations in the UK, the muslims who are to be shipped in from abroad to populate this muslim reformist conference don't have the money to get here and/or pay for hotel accommodation.

I think we can use this thread to start to record all the different conferences there are.  I've no doubt there will be 50 fundamentalist conference for every reformist conference.

But of course, the majority of muslims are moderate/secular/reformist.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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