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From The Heart Of A Muslim
By Tawfik Hamid
"I am a Muslim by faith, a Christian by spirit, a Jew by heart, and above all I am a human being."

~ Dr. Tawfik Hamid.
Dr. Hamid is an Egyptian scholar and author of the article.

The world needs more people like him---ones who have the courage to face-up to reality.


I was born a Muslim and lived all my life as a follower of Islam.

After the barbaric terrorist attacks done by the hands of my fellow Muslims everywhere on this globe, and after the too many violent acts by Islamists in many parts of the world, I feel responsible as a Muslim and as a human being to speak out and tell the truth to protect the world and Muslims as well from a coming catastrophe and war of civilizations.

I have to admit that our current Islamic teaching creates violence and hatred toward non-Muslims. We Muslims are the ones who need to change. Until now we have accepted polygamy, the beating of women by men, and killing those who convert from Islam to other religions.

We have never had a clear and strong stand against the concept of slavery or wars, to spread our religion and to subjugate others to Islam and force them to pay a humiliating tax called jizia. We ask others to respect our religion while all the time we curse non-Muslims loudly (in Arabic) in our Friday prayers in the mosques.

What message do we convey to our children when we call the Jews "descendants of the pigs and monkeys"? [Yet, both Arabs and Jews are descendants of Ibrahim (Abraham)!] Is this a message of love and peace, or a message of hate?

I have been into [Christian] churches and [Jewish] synagogues where they were praying for Muslims. While all the time, we curse them, and teach our generations to call them "infidels", and to hate them.

We immediately jump in a 'knee jerk reflex' to defend Prophet Mohammad when someone accuses him of being a pedophile while, at the same time, we are proud with the story in our Islamic books that he married a young girl seven years old [Aisha]when he was above 50 years old.

I am sad to say that many, if not most of us, rejoiced in happiness after September 11th and after many other terror attacks.

Muslims denounce these attacks to look good in front of the media, but we condone the Islamic terrorists and sympathise with their cause. Until now our 'reputable' top religious authorities have never issued a fatwa or religious statement to proclaim Bin Laden as an apostate, while an author, like Rushdie, was declared an apostate who should be killed according to Islamic Shari'a law just for writing a book criticizing Islam.

Muslims demonstrated to get more religious rights as we did in France to stop the ban on the hijab (head scarf), while we did not demonstrate with such passion and in such numbers against the terrorist murders. It is our abs olute silence against the terrorists that gives the energy to these terrorists to continue doing their evil acts.

We Muslims need to stop blaming our problems on others or on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. As a matter of honesty, Israel is the only light of democracy, civilization, and human rights in the whole Middle East.

We kicked out the Jews with no compensation or mercy from most of the Arab countries to make them "Jews-free countries" while Israel accepted more than a million Arabs to live there, have their own nationality, and enjoy their rights as human beings. In Israel, women cannot be beaten legally by men, and any person can change his/her belief system with no fear of being killed by the Islamic law of 'apostasy,' while in our Islamic world people do not enjoy any of these rights.

I agree that the 'Palestinians' suffer, but they suffer because of their corrupt leaders and not because of Israel.

It is not common to see Arabs who live in Israel leaving to live in the Arab world. On the other hand, we used to see thousands of Palestinians going to work with happiness in Israel, its 'enemy.' If Israel treats Arabs badly as some people claim, surely we would have seen the opposite happening.

We Muslims need to admit our problems and face them. Only then we can treat them and start a new era to live in harmony with human mankind. Our religious leaders have to show a clear and very strong stand against polygamy, pedophilia, slavery, killing those who convert from Islam to other religions, beating of women by men, and declaring wars on non-Muslims to spread Islam.

Then, and only then, do we have the right to ask others to respect our religion. The time has come to stop our hypocrisy and say it openly: 'We Muslims have to change.'

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All that he criticises Islam for is rooted in the 'sacred texts' of Islam and the perfect man that was Mohammed.  I think the baby needs to be thrown out with the bath water.

I agree. That ain't written by no Muslim.


Tony Ashworth said:

I agree. That ain't written by no Muslim.
He is a muslim, better described as a Quranist. I personally have come to the conclusion that these "Koranists" (or "Koran-only" Muslims) like Hamid are at best remarkably reality-resistant retards, and at worst clever deceivers.
After reading this article I believe him to be of the later

Well I read his article and I thought it was very good! He is part of a movement of scholars, many of whom have already been murdered or forced to flee.  Mahmoud Mohamed Taha for one, plus 

As time has passed, this violent and threatening behavior has become more common: Dr. Wafa Sultan in the US, Abdul Fatah in Egypt, and many, many others have received and continue to receive death threats. Recently, Dr. Nawal Al-Sadawi, a liberal Muslim thinker and women’s rights activist, was forced to flee Egypt because of her public statements. Dr. Rashad Khalifa was murdered in the United States after he published his own re-interpretation of the Quran which was less violent than was traditional. In Egypt, Dr. Faraq Fuddah was shot to death after publishing condemnations of Jihadists. Egyptian Nobel Prize winner Najib Mahfouz was stabbed in the neck for writing his novel, Awlad Haretna, perceived by Salafists as blasphemous. The list goes on. Still, the majority of members in many Muslim communities have adopted the violent teachings of the Islamists.

Then he adds these 3 appendices.

APPENDICES
Editor’s note: The following selections from the Quran and secondary Muslim sources have been supplied by the
author as examples of the writings that radical Salafis routinely draw from in their discussions about hell, the promises of paradise, and everyday sexual conduct. The translations are supplied by the author. Salafi literalism, of course,
is not the only way of interpreting the Quran, and importantly, many Muslims do not accept the secondary literature
as authoritative or relevant to their lives. Nonetheless, this literature is an essential part in the toolkit of those radicals who seek to shape impressionable, predominantly male, Muslim minds.

Appendix A
• “For those who do not follow Allah garments of fire shall be cut out for them (in the life to come); burning water will
be poured over their heads causing all that is within their bodies, as well as the skins, to melt away. And they shallTHE DEVELOPMEN T OF A JIHADI’S MIND 23
be held by iron grips; and every time they try in their anguish to come out of it, they shall be returned there to and
(be told): “Taste suffering through fire (to the full)!” Quran 22:19-22
• “But those of the left hand (did not obey Allah and Mohammed or follow them)—how unhappy those of the left
hand. They will be in the scorching hot wind and boiling water, under the shadow of thick black smoke, neither cool
nor agreeable. …They will be gathered together on a certain day which is predetermined. Then you, the erring and
the deniers will eat Zaqum (a thorny tree), fill your bellies with it, and drink scalding water, lapping it up like female
camels raging of thirst and disease. Such will be their entertainment, their welcome on the Day of Doom … the welcome of boiling water and the entertainment of roasting in Hell. This is the ultimate truth.” Quran 56:41-57
• “For We have truly made it as a trial to torment the disbelievers. Zaqum is a horrible thorn tree that grows in Hell.
The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils. Truly they (the non-Muslims) will eat it and fill their bellies
with it. On top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water to drink especially prepared. Then they
shall be returned to the Blazing Fire.” Quran 37:63-68
• “Soon will I fling them into the burning Hell Fire! And what will explain what Hell Fire is? It permits nothing to
endure, and nothing does it spare! It darkens and changes the color of man, burning the skin! It shrivels and scorches men.” Quran 74:26-29
• “We have prepared the doom of Hell and the penalty of torment in the most intense Blazing Fire. For those who
reject their Lord is the punishment of Hell: Evil, it is such a wretched destination. When they are flung therein, they
will hear the terrible drawing in of their breath and loud moaning even as the flame blazes forth, roaring with rage
as it boils up, bursting with fury. Every time a fresh crowd is cast in, Hell’s wardens will ask, ‘Did no Warner come
to you?” Quran 67:6-8
• “‘This,’ it will be said, ‘is the Fire, which you used to deny! Is this magic fake? Burn therein, endure the heat; taste it.
It’s the same whether you bear it patiently, or not. This is My retaliation for what you did.” Quran 52:14-16
• “Those who shall dwell forever in the Fire are given to drink boiling water that tears their bowels to pieces, and cutting their intestines to shreds.” Quran 47:15

Appendix B
• Narrated Anas: “The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had
nine wives.” Sahih al-Bokhari
• Narrated Anas: “that Prophet Mohammed used to make sex with all of his 11 wives in only one hour of a day or a
night … and he said that Mohammed has been given the power of 30 men in making sex.” Sahih al-Bokhari
• “In paradise: When the Muslim enters the room to have sex with the first lady of the 72 Hur (beautiful ladies with
wide eyes and white skin), he will find her waiting on the bed … He will not become bored at having sex with her
and she will not become bored of having sex with him … and every time he has sex with her he will find her a virgin again … and his penis will never relax (i.e. it will be continuously erected) after the coitus … Some disciples asked
the prophet, “Are we going to have sex in the paradise …?” Mohammed said “Yes, and I swear with the name of the
one who controls my soul and body (Allah) that every time the man will finish his turn at sex with her … she will
return back a virgin.” Tafsir Ibn Kathir24 TAWFIQ HAMID
• “A man was sleeping in the house of Aisha (the youngest wife of the prophet) and he ejaculated while sleeping. The
concubine of Aisha saw him while he was cleaning it (the semen) with water … She spoke to Aisha who explained
to the man that she used to scrub the semen of the Prophet directly with her nails after it dries up.” Sahih Muslim,
Book of Tahara
• “The ladies of the paradise awaiting the followers of Mohammed are so beautiful to the degree that light shines from
their faces, their bodies are as soft as silk, they are white in colour and they wear green clothes and golden jewelry
… These beautiful ladies say to the believers when they enter the paradise … “we are eternal for you (to enjoy us) …
We are very soft and will never get unhappy. We are continuously ready (for sex) and we are always satisfied and
will never be discontent … So blessed is this man who will have us and we will have him.” Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Appendix C
• “Allah granted Rayhanah of the (Jewish) Qurayza to His Messenger as booty (but only after she had been forced to
watch him decapitate her father and brother, had seen her mother hauled off to be raped, and her sisters sold into
slavery).” Tabari
• “… after Mohammed attacked the Jews of Bani Khriza he killed all their men and divided the women for sexual pleasure among Muslims and enslaved their kids and took their money and treasures.” Sahih al-Bokhari, Kitab alMaghazy
• “One day a woman came to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and said to him “Do you have a desire in my body (for sex)?
If so … I am offering myself to you … Mohammed’s daughter said, this lady does not have any dignity so she offers
herself to man!” …“The Prophet said to his daughter “This lady is better than you … as she wanted to be with the
Prophet of Allah so she offered herself to him.” Sunan Ibn Maga, Kitab al-Nikah
• “The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than (they have on) their own selves, (seeing that he is as a father
to them) and his wives are their mothers (i.e. not allowed to marry any other person).” (Quran 33:6) In Salafi books,
the above Quranic verse is understood to mean that Mohammed was allowed certain privileges above all other
Muslims. According to the classical theologian al-Qurtubi, these privileges include: “… if (Prophet Mohammed)
looked at a woman her husband has to divorce her and Mohammed is allowed to marry her to have sex … if he
divorced a woman it is not allowed for anyone to marry her … and he was allowed to take for himself the food from
the hungry and the water from the thirsty ...” Tafsir al-Qurtubi, Surat al-Ahzab
• “The Prophet married her (Aisha) when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine
years old, and then she remained with him for nine years.” Sahih al-Bokhari
• According to Aisha, “The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the
home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my
mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I
went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door
of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my
face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said,
“Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and good luck.” Then she gave me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at
that time I was a girl of nine years of age.” Sahih al-BokhariTHE DEVELOPMEN T OF A JIHADI’S MIND 25
• According to Aisha, “I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to
play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the
Prophet would call them to join and play with me.” Sahih al-Bokhari (Author’s note: Playing with the dolls and
similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl and had not yet reached
the age of puberty.)
• Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: “While we were returning from a Ghazwa (holy raid) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast as it was a lazy camel. A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with
him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet
himself. He said, “What makes you in such a hurry?” I replied, “I am newly married.” He said, “Did you marry a
virgin or a matron?” I replied, “A matron.” He said, “Why didn‘t you marry a young girl so that you may play with
her and she play with you?” Sahih al-Bokhari

No Alan, I do not think he is good enough

As a Quranist, he rejects the Hadithes so there is not much point to discuss Appendix B & C  

It is good reading but falls apart when Hamid writes of becoming a "Qur'anist."

Up until this point, Hamid provides no fewer than 14 passages from the Qur'an as part of explaining how the "extremists" use the Qur'an to justify their actions.

 Then he goes on to write 

 On one occasion a fellow medical student named Abdul Latif Haseeb started a conversation with me about religion. We discussed whether it was right to kill apostates or stone women to death, as well as whether Mohammed could be considered a pedophile because he married the seven-year-old Aisha (See Appendix C.) We weighed the merits of declaring war on non-Muslims to spread Islam and agreed that it should be rejected because it is condoned only by supplemental Salafi books rather than by the Quran itself.

Oh Dear, He starts out being very truthful, but he then takes a word out of the ether, a word that is meant to take the sting out of his indictment of Islam, and to pretend that there is a particular variant that somehow is the only one we need to worry about, when Tawfik Hamid has just insisted on the very opposite.

 He blames Salafi, not Islam.

Good point.

Its great that men such as Tawfik, who was i believe part of a terrorist group in his youth, speak out against radical islam. It gives impressionable youngsters a different angle to the religion. The only trouble being of course, if they then decide to read the qur'an properly, or take instruction from an Imam, then Tawfik's version won't  be what they hear.

I don't want to put the man down, but it seems to me he wants his cake. The Qur'an and the Hadiths are what they are. Theres many copys and they all agree on the main points about subduing the non believer, killing jews, Mohhamad being the perfect man. Its all there and has been argued over for centries, disagrements do exist. The disagrements are amongst the muslims themselves, and of no concern to us infidels. The muslim won't hear a word of critisim from someone who hasn't reverted back to islam. And once your a muslim, your can't critisize. 

My point is, the Qur'an is there, and unless people such as Tawfik are able to rewite it. Then when ever there's any confusion over anything, Imams will refer back to the text of the Qur'an and interpretations by all the scholars and come up with the same answers as, hamas,  the taliban, Al-Qaeda, Al-Shabab, and :Ali-F******* Baba. Kill the jews, humiliate everyone else, take over the world, smash everything that isn't islamic, keep women as second class citizens, take over the world again, kill all the dogs, and then just keep on doing that untill the end of times, job done!!!!

I used to think we could talk and listern to the sense from people such as Tawfik Hamid, but he can't rewite the Qur'an.

You'd have to destroy every book and reference to the qur'an, hadiths. It doesn't matter that most people can't read Arabic. all the scholars that have translated the passages have all pretty much agreed on its content. And even if you could get people to re-interprete the entire Qur'an to mean something else, you'll always get others that will come along and say 'thats a lie, thats not what it says'. 

There's about 1.2 billion muslims. I'm sure most of them don't know a thing about their supposed religion, except they must follow certain rules, and actions. ie: leap around demanding death to all non believers and burning american flags when islam has been deemed to have been insulted.

For most muslims i'm sure they go through the actions of praying and looking the part in public, just as a means of getting through life.  We need to help as many muslims as possible leave islam, and show them they will be safe. That means taking some tough decisions, and doing away with Mulit-culturism, and political correctness.

People in Britian should obey British law. No special consessions made on religious grounds, no Halal forced into the public domain, no bloody outreach to all those muslim groups. No face covering in public, no to everything we concede to islam at present. NO! to all the refugees from our allied countries, and illegals should be removed back to their last country of entry. No to foriegn Imams spreading their hate in mosques, and i would say monitor all mosques for the next twenty years to insure they are not preaching hate.

Is any of that ever going to happen! of cause it won't. Is tawfik Hamid going to convince millions of Muslims to believe his version of Islam, of cause he's not.  Its the first duty of a govenment to protect the people. That is not happening!. That is because they are weak, our laws are weak!! and when they do decide to inact laws, the police use the laws against the very people who are argueing in favour of tolerence, and equality, in the same way islamic law will not tally up with  Tawfik's version. 

If you stand with a sign that proclaims your belief, that there should be no forced marriages, and No Female genital mutilation. If you want equal rights for women. Then you stand more chance of being arrested than anyone who waves a placard demanding sharia law for the UK, or death to our service men and women, or who burns poppys on rememberence day.  

If you'd stood and said that was  going to happen in the future 50 yrs ago!!! well we all know the story of  Enoch Powell.

Yes its great to have men like Tawfik Hamid, but how many people is he going to get to follow his version of islam, Honestly!  

Thanks Paul, you expressed what I didn't have time to say, something like "I don't want to put him down, its a good effort, but really, where is it going?"

Also, I'm a big fan of the Hudson Institute, so I don't want to dis their efforts too much.

Perhaps, in a way, what people like Tawfik Hamid do is give us another set of problems, as if we haven't got enough already!

Your right Alan,

no one wants to disrespect the work that anyone does in resisting islam in what ever way. Not least the great minds of the Hudson insitute. But, as you rightly point out, it can lead to more problems. Tawfik is trying the, i'm a moderate muslim routine, come and join me.

I really have trouble now a days understanding how us mere mortals are going to 'reform' the word of Allah  when he is all seeing, all knowning, and everthing we all do and say is pre-ordained by him.  Anyone who trys to change the word of the Qur'an can't be a muslim.  Theres plenty of minority muslim groups who have tried that, and  they and their mosques end up dead and burned as surely as any church.

We are supposed to live in a well educated country. Look at all the people who got A levels over the past 15 yrs. We is all very clever 'innit'. So you'd think someone would have noticed that Islam is a vicious cult. Thats the truth, and its hard to dress it up as anything else. Tawfik telling people, they've just been mis-interpreting islam for 1400 yrs isn't going to get much of a following in the short term. maybe over the course of a couple centries that idea may catch on. Lets hope so ah!!  

Sorry Paul, but I can not share your opinion about him.

I take what he says about being a part of a terrorist group with a large dollop of salt, especially after looking at his website

http://islamforpeace.org/approach.html

Most of the verses are not completely correct, or they have been tampered with. But I have one rule, never, ever trust anybody who quotes the below, no matter who they are. 

5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all humans in the world: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all of them whole people.

 

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