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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Islam, the only religion where it's legal to kill or/and torture a person for converting out of the religion.

“She Found Jesus in Niger, Faced Horrible Rejection and Violence,” by Mark Ellis, ASSIST News Service, April 9, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA (April 8, 2015) — After she found Jesus, she left her faith in Islam behind. As a result, she endured physical abuse, divorce and abandonment because she chose Jesus as her Savior and Lord.

- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/niger-muslim-woman-converts-to-chri...

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People who carry out these acts are following their religion. If Islam is to be reformed then someone is going to have to say how.

The Koran says if there is any dispute in what to do, then a Muslim should always follow the later text of the Medina era.

These sorts of actions are not a perversion of Islam, the wests interpretation of Islam is the perversion. And by the time the west realises that fact it will almost certainly be to late for a peaceful solution.

Exactly, thats why the problem needs to be attacked from the beginning. To re-write the Quran, surely somewhere meanings have got distorted.

How could meanings have got distorted?  After all, it is the perfect message from Allah.  So what we should do is just adopt it.  But of course, being Kaffir, we should reverse all the words and call it Islam2, because that is the way that we can take this perfect message and apply it ourselves.  So where it says Muslim we put Kaffir, and visa versa.  Then we could make Muslims submit to our Islam2, or pay the Jizya, or pay the ultimate price - just like it says in our Quran2.

But of course, the Leftards will shoot this down before we can even get started, since it will be seen as some kind of cultural imperialism by the West.  For the left, everyone is not born equal, we do not all have equal rights, and you must not try apply the standards of Muslims to non-Muslims.

Rewriting the Koran is compete blasphemy. Look at the Ahmadiyya Muslims. They can't  go to mecca because they are not considered Muslim at all. The Sunni and Shia can barely stand to be in each others company along with all the other sects.

A rewritten Koran is not a Koran.

The Koran is only mis understood by non muslims.  After  1400 years, Islam  looks pretty much the same now as it always did. There is no distortion that anyone can identify, no where in history can anyone show that Islam has lived as an equal, side by side with Anyone.

Islam has always considered non muslims to be inferior. Never equal, and certainly not better.

The problem is not that 'meanings have got distorted' the problem is we in the west have failed to understand the meanings.  

Thats what I mean, they need a "real" Holy book to follow, for rhe ones who need their lives run that way. Islam is Nazisicm. No different from Hitlers day. Islam shoukd ve outlawed , at least in western countries. Obviously cant do this in already Islamuc countries

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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