It takes a nation to protect the nation
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This room is for more relaxing interactions between members, which are not part of the threats to secular democracy. So it could be general info, or interesting news, or new technology, or just something funny.
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Please follow these guidelines:
- no talking about politics or Islam, not even a reminder word (like the Arabic word for war)
- nothing serious, not even a lecture on democracy
- just keep it fun!
Apart from getting burned out oneself, its important not to 'burn out' one's family or friends. There are some rows in our movements, both between husband/wife and between parent/child. We all need to "switch off" completely sometimes, so that those near us don't get sick of our political diatribes and anger. At the end of the day, we're all human, so we should enjoy the journey along the way :-)
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The Universe and God
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The collapse of our free world
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Children should be allowed to get bored, expert says - from BBC
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Comment by Antony on September 10, 2018 at 9:59 -
Real Women and Traditional huntsman's Wife material - much better than the bimbos and white slags that (post) modern women are encouraged to become - real women like this should be the role models for female youth - not the likesm of Kim Kardashian etc ; https://www.rferl.org/a/the-badass-women-of-the-world-nomad-games/2...
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Comment by Alan Lake on August 26, 2018 at 0:31 -
Can you believe it. In 1853 we allied with the fascists of the Ottoman Empire against our true European Allies, Russia.
Only 70 years later we see that rise of Islamic fascism and the use of terror against civilians, as shown in this timemap.
http://4freedoms.com/page/jihad4Around 60 years after that, the jihad has spread to the West, so we see the hijacking of the Akile Lauro and murder of a disabled jew in his wheelchair in 1985. In 1988 Sharia censorship started in the UK with Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses.
We were so foolish to ally with Islamic fascism against a fellow kuffar only 130 years before they are actually attacking us in our homelands.
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Comment by Alan Lake on August 26, 2018 at 0:18
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Comment by Antony on August 24, 2018 at 11:32
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New foreign import ; https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-23/outbreak-alert-rare-flesh...
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Comment by Antony on July 25, 2018 at 7:04
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Sex Doll threaten Japanese with extinction ; https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-24/explosion-sex-dolls-threa...
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Comment by Alan Lake on July 25, 2018 at 4:48
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Comment by Antony on July 21, 2018 at 15:02
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Chinese Belly Dancers ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HKs8MRkKRA
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Comment by Antony on July 13, 2018 at 11:28
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Wife material ! ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7PcsyFSpk
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Comment by Antony on June 15, 2018 at 20:42
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The Stranger - Kipling - arr Xurious ;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNdMOlq6nD4&feature=em-uploademail
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Comment by Antony on June 5, 2018 at 21:40
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Sabaton - Rorkes Drift ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVW5rjA5O7U
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Mission Overview
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
The 4 Freedoms
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
- Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"
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