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The Quran says the following about some people who have really earned God’ s anger. I believe this verse refers muslims, The Quran says :

 Surah 5.60 Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made monkeys and pigs, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.

By their appearance the Arab ulema and also the Ahlul Sunnah and Shiah prefer to be unshaven and grow their beards long. It does give them the appearance of the hairy apes or monkeys.

But it does not stop there. By their own admission the muslims also claim to follow the monkeys. They believe that the punishment for adultery is stoning people to death. This false teaching is not found in the Quran. It is stolen from the Christian Bible. But they will not admit that they have stolen these ideas from the Christian Bible. Instead they say they got the idea to stone people from the monkeys. By their own confession they fall into the punishment God has promised them – they confess that they are indeed followers of monkeys. Here is the evidence from their own Bukhari hadith.

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188: Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:

During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.

This is the basis of the islamic belief of stoning people to death for adultery. They learnt it from the monkeys. Hence 

Surah 5.60   Say: Shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribution from Allah? (Worse is he) whom Allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom He made monkeys and pigs, and he who served the Shaitan; these are worse in place and more erring from the straight path.

God has indeed made the Ahlul Sunnah into monkeys. Their Sharia Law of stoning adulterers to death is copied from the monkeys.


The Arabs Learned It From The Monkeys Too !

Then the ulema make lawful polygamy ie they say that men can marry four wives. This is actually making lawful the old pagan Arab culture of maintaining harems full of slave women for their pleasure. By saying that Islam allows polygamy, they are legalizing the prostitution of the harems.

Here too the muslims particularly the Arabs may have learnt this polygamous harem behaviour from the monkeys. The Arabian Peninsula, Yemen, Ethiopia and Somalia are home to the Hamadryas Baboon. These baboons have lived in arid sub-desert and savannah woodlands of these countries for a long time.

Just like the Arabs the Hamadryas baboons live in a very harsh environment with extreme temperatures, both hot and cold. What is interesting is that Hamadryas baboons are very social and have a four-level social structure. The male baboons maintain harems where a group of up to 10 females can be dominated by an adult male. These baboons that live in and around Arabia are the only known baboons that maintain harems.

Two or more such harems of Hamadryas baboons make up a clan, with single male followers. A band of Hamadryas Baboons is made up of several such clans.

And when several clans of Baboons band together it is called a troupe.

This is not unlike the polygamous harems maintained by the Arabs. There is no basis in the Quran for polygamy. It is most likely that the Arabs who claim to learn from monkeys how to stone adulterers to death have also learned polygamy from the Hamadryas Baboons. Indeed God has made them into monkeys. 

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From David Attenborough's video:

"Females which have dared to stray are strictly punished by their male owner.  Strict discipline has to be maintained."

You're right, sounds like pure Islamist doctrine.

Is this comparison fair?  Muslims are the ones that call us pigs and apes, in their canonical core reference texts, their "holy" scripture.  So yes, they want to apply those terms to other humans, so they have to expect that other humans will use those same terms to measure them.

Actually I was looking for a video of baboon behaviour so to use as a comparison to the recent muslim rioting.


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